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Post by rolly » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:49 pm

Fo reals, yo.
BBC wrote:Russia's energy giant Gazprom has signed a $2.5bn deal with Nigeria's state operated NNPC, to invest in a new joint venture.
The new firm, to be called Nigaz, is set to build refineries, pipelines and gas power stations in Nigeria.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8118721.stm
Nigaz, please!

…In terms of well chosen names, this is right up there with Pen Island. :lol:



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Post by piccini9 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:02 pm

Nigaz? Really? Wow.
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Post by EIF » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:39 pm

Name aside, this could turn into a stable oil flow out of a banana republic protected and controlled by ex-Soviet military personnel and hardware. Follow the money. Does us no good, other than maybe put a little pressure on the mid-East producers who will loose market share to the Ruskies.
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Post by Groove » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:02 pm

As far as not thinking things through, I am putting this one up there with the Tampax commercial that had the tag line, "Making periods easier, one box at a time."
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Post by Caliann » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:09 pm

If Nigeria gets oil refineries and is pumping oil, they will have jobs, right? And if they have jobs, they'll have money, right?

And if they have money, maybe they will stop sending e-mails to scam it out of us? Maybe?
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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:47 pm

Caliann wrote:If Nigeria gets oil refineries and is pumping oil, they will have jobs, right? And if they have jobs, they'll have money, right?

And if they have money, maybe they will stop sending e-mails to scam it out of us? Maybe?
Oil exploitation in the Niger Delta is nothing new. Nigeria is Africa's biggest oil producer. Didn't do the people there any good. Pollution from oil production has destroyed the livelihood of thousands of communities that used to make a good living from fishing in the delta, but when the water turns to a brown petroleum sludge, fish don't like that at all. Constant oil spills have devastated the countryside, so even agriculture is out. The oil companies walk away with massive profits, leaving the local population poorer and worse off than they ever were before oil was discovered. And anyone who tries to do something about it literally risks his life, quite a few activists have been murdered.
As if the activities of the oil companies weren't bad enough, criminal organizations, who do nothing for the people, just plain mobsters, tap into pipelines, abandoned wellheads, even into oil-tankers, stealing oil and pumping it through makeshift pipelines to bunker and sell it off.
The vast poverty, destruction of the environment and hence income base of the indigenous people have led to piracy and banditry as the only way out for many, who attack oil tankers either to take crews hostage or steal oil, who kidnap oil company employees, etc., plus the odd bit of sabotage from non-profit activists.
Often, using violence against the oil companies and their employees is the only way that indigenous people can literally save their own lives, forcing the companies to abandon well-heads that endangered nearby villages through oil spills, toxic gases and old-fashioned fires and explosions. And don't believe they clean up fuck when they move out of an area.
The land there has been raped. The people got nothing out of it but loosing what livelihood they had. There was a British documentary about piracy where they covered piracy in that area, and showed the effects of oil production. It makes all the "scandalous" and "horrible" images of the Alberta tar sand pits look almost benign by comparison.

Search youtube for "Ross Kemp in search of pirates", episode 2 gives an overview of the situation in the Niger Delta.
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Post by Caliann » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:47 pm

*smiles and shakes her head*

It's in the Grinder. I was trying to be tongue-in-cheek.

I am aware that nearly all the profits that MIGHT go to Nigeria, for the use of its very rich oil fields, ends up in the pockets of high government officials and the already wealthy, while not a penny of it goes to the Nigerians who are forced to give up their very way of living.

292 BILLION tons of gold has been mined out of the Black Hills. Even at the rate of gold in the late 1800's, which was a little over $20 an ounce, the worth of that comes to astronomical figures. And every single gram of it was *stolen*. The Black Hills did not, and legally STILL do not, belong to the United States. They belong to the Lakota. The U.S. Supreme Court has stated that several times.

So, to make the record straight, the U.S. has tried to buy the Black Hills from the Lakotah for the last 10 or 20 years...and is shocked that the Lakota keep saying that the Black Hills are not for sale. The offer is, currently, 570 million for the 60 million acres of the Black Hills that were taken. Or, a little less than $10 an acre....and, of course, no recompense for the natural resources that were already stolen from land.

The Nigerians are currently suffering from a comparable rape. Although it is not a gold rush that is basically stealing their land and resources from them; oil, in this day and age, is not so different from gold.

I can only hope that the Nigerians fare better than the Lakota.
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