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Re: The Well Dressed Ootmik

Post by DerGolgo » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:05 pm

2XSL wrote:Ah, once a leather sole gets scuffed up, it's really not an issue unless there are marble floors around. Most leather soled-shoes have rubber heels as a concession.
The support of a shanked shoe is superb. Sneakers are crummy beanbag chairs and a solid pair of shoes is a Recaro seat.
How do they stick to wet steel, like recessed tram tracks or manhole covers? I like shoes that let me step on pretty much any solid surface without having to worry.
I got my workboots. Waterproof, oil resistant, non-slip and not just a steel shank, but steel toecap and heel, too. And a shop absorbing sole.
2XSL wrote:Jeans are 1850's work clothing, and t-shirts are derived from the union suit, a product of a Victorian clothign reform movement. Suits are problematic in being a matched set, but the form factor makes sense if you don't live amidst orchids blasting heated air like mad. Neckwear, besides the obvious aesthetic benefits, will do much to seal out drafts and keep in warmth. Who is riding around in open collared riding gear on colder days?
True, true. Don't fix it if it ain't broke, and the t-shirt or the jeans, they are like the hammer or the toothpick, I think. Once you've got the basic shape down, there's a limit to the possible variations that still provide the same functionality. But the big point of wearing a suit isn't functionality, is it, it's social convention. Symbolism and whatnot, isn't it? If middle management wore clothing for functionality, they'd be running around like the production assistants on a soundstage.
As for non-19th century, I for one own one jean. Everything else I've got is cargo-pants and a pair of overalls. Dunno about the history of the overall, but the cargo-pant was first worn by His Majesty's forces in 1938.
2XSL wrote:Finally, wool rules. It is a poverty that we devolved to cotton and then to the cheesier synthetics.
Wool is nice. If it's processed right and well maintained. So is having the income to afford both wool and that care and maintenance. The curse of poverty is that you spend much more on many cheap things that don't last than you'd spend on a single, pricey thing that would last, though. Like my father's 40 year old loafers.
Furthermore, wool and the sheep it requires couldn't meet modern demands. In the 19th century, the British owning classes had to pretty much depopulate Scotland (the clearings) to make room for enough sheep to meet demand. We live in an age when methane emissions from cattle for meat-production are a significant contributor to climate change. What would enough sheep to supply all of mankind with wool add to that?
And even if you can afford wool, some people may not want to. Some people, like I, prefer something cheap, because not worrying about damaging what you wear can be just as important for comfort as the tactile sensations.
I do think cotton and synthetics really aren't as good fabrics as we could have. Synthetics are still developing, but I'd like to see cheaper hemp clothing around. The hemp fiber is one of the most, of not the most, strong natural fiber. Heck, in the 1940s, Ford build prototype car-bodies from it. Hemp will grow anywhere, like a weed, so to speak, and restore depleted soil to some degree. Unlike sheep, that'd help.


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Post by 2XSL » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:41 pm

Rench wrote:My haven't we come a long way from posts that read like an 11 year old girl would text...
werd. cuz i dun post on style boardz 2
12ci wrote:100 years ago, it made sense to have suits made of "winter" and "summer" weight fabrics, but with modern HVAC its a recipe for discomfort.
Also lining. Full lining tends to be the norm because it is cheaper and quicker to cover all the inside seams than to finish them nicely. That rayon bemberg lining is likely the bigger culprit than the wool.
DerGolgo wrote:How do they stick to wet steel, like recessed tram tracks or manhole covers? I like shoes that let me step on pretty much any solid surface without having to worry.
I'd have to experiment. My main memory is how so-called oil-resistant rubber will scare you to death if you unwittingly step in gasoline during a fuel stop. The footpeg and brake pedal will not stay under your foot. I'm not sure how leather would respond, but I suspect that the absorbency might help. BTW, leather soles do not build up heat like rubber. I'm wearing little canvas sneakers now and my feet are burning up.
2XSL wrote:But the big point of wearing a suit isn't functionality, is it, it's social convention. Symbolism and whatnot, isn't it?
I see the same thing, moreso, with the jeans/t-shirt/sneakers uniform. Surely there are social mores out the wazoo with business suits, but they really are as good as anything for a leisurely domesticated wear. Of course I'm in cheap chinos and rubber soles at work because more industrial.
2XSL wrote:The curse of poverty is that you spend much more on many cheap things that don't last than you'd spend on a single, pricey thing that would last, though...Furthermore, wool and the sheep it requires couldn't meet modern demands.
I've read a few books that I could name on such topics. Most recently, one stated that if everyone in China were to buy a pair of wool socks, there'd be no wool left. Environmentally, I'm of the jimmy Carter "wear a sweater and turn down the thermostat" school of ecology. And don't buy disposable anything.
2XSL wrote:I'd like to see cheaper hemp clothing around. The hemp fiber is one of the most, of not the most, strong natural fiber.
No experience with it, but I imagine it's just a more robust vegetable fiber. Someone on the radio here was touting it as a cure-all for the domestic economy as well as environmentalism and all.

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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:10 am

... I think you made a doodoo with the quote tags there. Take a close look, you autocommunicator you ... :lol:

I've stepped in oil and gas and other sundry things with my workboots, never got slippery. Never wore 'em on a bike, but the rubber doormat at the petrol station would never give me any grief, either.
The jeans-and-t-shirt have moved beyond uniform, I think. Almost everything is a fashion statement, or started out like one, or became one. Khakis, cargo pants, you name it, it became fashionable at one point.
Jeans, though. Apart from the ruggedness factor and the tactile qualities that also come with that, I think society just needs a pair of pants. Human pants, if you will. Jeans just got so popular at some point, they filled a large part of that niche. Not all of it, but a lot. From childhood, people see so many jeans and so few other non-formal styles of pants, they just become the default, I think. If you play word association, I bet you "jeans" or "denim" or something else associated therewith will be a pretty common answer for most people when confronted with "pants". Jeans are just this society's generic legwear, they don't inherently serve the purpose of declaring things about the wearers position/status/responsibilities like a suit. They can do that, but that's where you quickly get into subcultures.
As for practicability and comfort, there's a reason I wear only cargo pants.

Growing hemp takes CO2 out of the air, replenishes depleted soil, will grow on fucked-up soil to begin with, provides useful natural fibers and oils. Even the seeds are yummy. That this is not one of the most-used, or at least most-researched, crops in the world is a bit silly, you gotta admit.
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Post by Bo_9 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:33 am

2XSL wrote:My main memory is how so-called oil-resistant rubber will scare you to death if you unwittingly step in gasoline during a fuel stop. The footpeg and brake pedal will not stay under your foot.
I had a pair of Hi-Tec boots that did that. If they got any oil on the sole they would not stay on pegs.
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Post by goose » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:57 pm

I don't really mind wearing a suit because it's particularly uncomfortable. Rather, I'm uncomfortable in it. I used to work for an attorney that litterally believed that a better suit makes a better man. Well, he had some damn fine suits, but he really was one of the biggest douchebags I've ever known. Furthermore, I don't like to hang out with people in my profession (for the most part). Most people I interact with that wear suits are other lawyers. I'd rather just deal with them in a work environment (or not at all if I could). I guess I just never liked the pretense that a suit can have.

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Post by MoraleHazard » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:06 pm

Rench wrote:My haven't we come a long way from posts that read like an 11 year old girl would text... :mrgreen:

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Forgot who that was for a minute, but yeah, not going to feed the trolls.
12ci wrote:
MoraleHazard wrote: Also not fun is leaving one's jacket on in a hot conference room because the big shot does (though I've started to ignore that these days). I mind wearing suits the least in spring and fall. Not too hot and not too cold is fine for me. I HATE wearing a suit in the summer in NYC. Nothing is more miserable than sweating like a pig in a shirt, jacket, tie, BEFORE the big meeting.
the key is selecting the correct fabric and weight. your tailor should be able to help with that.
100 years ago, it made sense to have suits made of "winter" and "summer" weight fabrics, but with modern HVAC its a recipe for discomfort. here in The South, its acceptable to wear poplin and seersucker in the hot months.

maybe you should have a chat with the facility manager about the excess heat in the conference room. your colleagues will thank you.
All too often it's in someone else's building when the air conditioning is broken and there's nothing I can do other than suffer through the meeting. I'm aware of different weight fabrics, but thankfully, such a small minority of my clients wear full suits and ties that it's not worth spending the money on getting appropriate "summer" and "winter" weight suits. Other than work, I only wear suits on the rarest of occasions.

I know youngish guys who just love getting dressed up. They have seersucker, suspenders, bow ties, tasseled loafers, the whole nine yards and love that stuff, but it's not me.
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Post by 2XSL » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:03 pm

I have to ask if anyone is actually using those cargo pockets in pants. I recall being forced to stuff MREs in BDU pants, but otherwise I've never given them much use. My riding suit has them and they hold a spare pair of earplugs.
I get that they allow stuff to be accessed while seated, but what ever goes in there besides maybe a cellular telephone.

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Post by DerGolgo » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:18 pm

I use them all the time. When I wear a sweatshirt, with no breast pockets, it's where I keep my phone, e-cigarette, paper tissues, eye-ointment and other sundry items when I'm at work. When I was still reading many books, before my eyes got effed up, I'd often have a paperback in there. They're also convenient for stuffing receipts from stores and other small, loose things that get pushed in my hand and I don't want to sort out right at that moment. I have also, once or twice, used them to augment insufficient grocery bags, to store loose screws while assembling furniture and to transport beer when, at parties, I intended to carry more than just for my personal use.
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Post by Pattio » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:22 pm

I wear mall cop pants. They are cargo pants. What I love best about them is the cell phone pocket on the hip. such a little thing, but I need a place for the phone and it's perfect. I used to use the cargo pockets quite a bit when going up a ladder to hang signs, but in everyday life, no they don't get used much.
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Post by wyckedsin » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:48 pm

Normally for my line of work, it is Polo Shirts, slacks or khakis, and of late due to injuries, it has become Sketchers slip on business cut shoes with memory foam. Right now since I am on the disabled list (waiting for spinal surgary) it is what ever I can easily get on some days, but mostly jeans the afore mentions sketchers in a more relaxed look and either tshirts or polos.

But when it was required for work...
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Now, I am not comfortable in a tie, or collar that fits above my adams apple. That collar is actually rather thin and closes just below the adams apple, something many older style shirts did not do on my build. I am also not a fan of having shirts buttoned around my wrists, hell, I really don't like the feel of anything around my wrists. i carried pocket watches for years because of this. Now time is pretty much a glance around anywhere if I need to be somewhere and don't have my phone with me.
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Post by Merlyn » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:29 am

2XSL wrote:I have to ask if anyone is actually using those cargo pockets in pants. I recall being forced to stuff MREs in BDU pants, but otherwise I've never given them much use. My riding suit has them and they hold a spare pair of earplugs.
I get that they allow stuff to be accessed while seated, but what ever goes in there besides maybe a cellular telephone.
Keys, spare packs of smokes, cell phone, tablet, paperback book, the occasional spare magazine when i'm driving the shop truck, tools, larger than front pocket sized flashlights, a staple gun when I'm at the range.... It's moderately rare for me NOT to have something in one or both thigh pockets. They also make a pretty good garbage can until you can get to a real one when you're snacking on the job or in the woods, etc.

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Post by Sisyphus » Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:20 am

It's taken me many, many years to come to the realization that my work clothes are pretty much my every day clothes--carhartts, Keenes with steel toes until my feet hurt then I switch to the ugly Crocs with the fuzzy liners. From about October until sometime in April I need to layer up w/ wool long johns and turtlenecks.
Nice thing about work is that everyone there wears the same clothes every day anyway, so nobody really cares. Its only when I go a-wassailing in public that I "dress up," i.e. clean pants and a sweater or something without sawdust and epoxy or grease or pine tar all over it.
I own one suit and one tie, which I wore when I got married twelve years ago and will probably be buried in them as well. Three dress shirts, a nice vest, one pair of nice shoes, one Stetson hat, which I also wore on my wedding day and occasionally ever since.
All the rest of my clothes have stains and/or holes in them.
When I do my yachting gig I have another spotless wardrobe for those occasions that include three pairs of shorts, some crew shirts, rain gear, and special shoes.
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Post by Jaeger » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:34 pm

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Post by red » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:05 pm

I'm normally a jeans and t-shirt guy but I'm trying to move into wearing button up work shirts more often. Going for a bit more class, but not too much. Footwear is generally boots or converse.
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Post by motorpsycho67 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:05 am

I like quality stuff.... which extends to clothes. I'm usually in a pair of 501s and a plain black t-shirt with a pair of Thorogood moc-toe workboots with nice, thick cotton socks. Boxers since I was 12. I also like shoes a bit more than most regular guys. Wore Red Wing boots for many years, but they stopped making the ones I like (story of my life). These Thorogoods are pretty Damn comfortable and made here in the US with quality leather..... and less expensive than Red Wings. I also have a pair of cop shoes I wear (oxford postal type shoes with extra thick soles), a bunch of different tennies, most of which I dont wear save for one or two pairs, a pair of Merrill hiking shoes for work (industry fave) and several pairs of vintage Florsheim wingtips for when I want/need to dress it up a bit. Best dress shoe ever made IMO. Last a lifetime. I own two suits, both vintage circa late 50s. I kinda do the Mad Men thing when I dress up. Been doing that for damn near 30 years though. At work it's either 501s or Carhartt shorts, plain black tshirt, Merrills or boots and a hoody if it's cold.
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Post by 2XSL » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:11 pm

motorpsycho67 wrote:...Thorogood moc-toe workboots... These Thorogoods are pretty Damn comfortable and made here in the US with quality leather..... and less expensive than Red Wings....vintage Florsheim wingtips...
I have some 8" Thorogoods, moc toe. Agreed on the leather quality. That Christie sole wears quickly though. Red Wings are overrated IMHO. The Florsheim Imperials, Kenmoors, V-cleats etc. are fantastic gunboats that epitomize what America used to do, and as mid-level stuff. Obviously they are superior to anything short of $500 Aldens in today's market. Sadly, another fallen American brand that is not even a shadow of what is was.

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Post by thrasherbill » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:40 pm

DerGolgo wrote: Anything without laces appears suspicious to me.

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Post by 2XSL » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:12 am

These are my desk drawer shoes. A pair of Rockports bought for $23 at an outlet six or seven years ago.
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Post by motorpsycho67 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:59 am

2XSL wrote: The Florsheim Imperials, Kenmoors, V-cleats etc. are fantastic gunboats that epitomize what America used to do, and as mid-level stuff. Obviously they are superior to anything short of $500 Aldens in today's market. Sadly, another fallen American brand that is not even a shadow of what is was.
I think they're much better than Aldens.

I have several pairs of 5 nail/V-cleat Imperials, that I have no doubt will last me the rest of my life. There's a website that sells NOS Imperials for well north of $500. I've gotten all of mine except one pair off of eBay, for a reasonable price. I do have one NOS pair that I paid $100 for, but that's a bargain IMO.


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Post by Beemer Dan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:07 pm

On the suits thing, I've worn a few comfortable suits, but I've got a neurosis about durable clothes. Suits feel far too flimsy to adventure properly in. Maybe that's part of the psychology behind the wear of suits in the modern world. Der Golgo said it well.

I've been a boots, jeans, t-shirt guy since my teens, but the uniform is much better quality than it used to be. Still looking for the perfect belt. I picked up an Amish made belt on ebay that is really sturdy, but they pay more attention to utility than the minor aesthetic details.

I've noticed that as I get older my clothing choices are becoming more and more expensive. I'm not too concerned with fashion, but things that are well made just make me warm and fuzzy inside. Thin denim and cheap leather can fuck off. Clothes that fit badly are shop rags.

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Post by Caliann » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:41 pm

2XSL wrote:I have to ask if anyone is actually using those cargo pockets in pants. I recall being forced to stuff MREs in BDU pants, but otherwise I've never given them much use. My riding suit has them and they hold a spare pair of earplugs.
I get that they allow stuff to be accessed while seated, but what ever goes in there besides maybe a cellular telephone.
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Post by Caliann » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:06 pm

I might add that I am a fan of utility, but I don't want things that are just going to hang on me, no matter how durable they are. Some creative shopping can be like winning the lottery.

Case in point: I live on a farm. It's muddy most of the time, and waterproof boots are an absolute necessity. Many times, I have to leave said farm to go to town, but who wants to wear water boots to go grocery shopping? Or, for that matter to the feed store? Yet, there is that little issue of simply getting to the driveway without being ankle deep. :sighs: Sturdy, comfortable, waterproof....options:

Wal-Mart Basic Black waterboot: Has waterproof down. Otherwise it's cheap, uncomfortable, and lasts about 30 seconds in a herd of goats with sharp hooves.
Muck Boots: Sturdy, waterproof. NOT comfortable for me, as even the women's boots seem to be obviously the same design as the men, just with the option of having them in pink camo. And as every self-sufficient woman knows, pink is for tools. (Makes them readily identifiable in the man's toolbox when he "lost" his and only "borrowed" yours.) Also, $150. But, they have a lifetime guarantee. So, sturdy, waterproof, but uncomfortable, ugly, and expensive.
Coach. Yes, I said Coach. They don't call them waterboots; instead they call them "Rain Boots". Sturdy? Yes, with the same lifetime guarantee. No matter what you do to or in them. Waterproof? Yes. Expensive? Comfortable? Oh yes...designed by high paid, famous designers with foot fetishes for women. $129. Wait, what? Coach is cheaper than Muck? Yes, yes they are.

How do they look? Well, they are Coach....plenty of options. I could get them in high heels if I wanted, but I decided against it since the goats would laugh at me.

It would have never occurred to me to go shopping on the Coach site for a pair of farm boots....but there ya have it.
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Re: The Well Dressed Ootmik

Post by Bo_9 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:53 am

Hey glad to see you back here!

I'm a cargo pocket addict. Usually the only things in mine are phone on the right and wallet on the left. Used to tear up pants all the time at work so I started wearing khaki (no camo) BDUs since I could get them at the local surplus or sporting goods store for $20. I still have some LA Police gear $20 pants but got some Propper "casual duty pants?" on sale and they are fantastic. cargo pockets are flatter and don't bulge out any. When I replace the wardrobe in 50 pounds I'm going to try to kick the cargo pocket habit.
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Re: The Well Dressed Ootmik

Post by Caliann » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:19 pm

Yo Bo! :)

I'm about to completely change my wardrobe as well, actually. I'm currently learning to drive 2 wheels....times 9. Ugh. But once that is done, I'm going to need outerwear that is light, comfortable, easy to move in, and takes up minuscule amounts of space. Oh, and somewhat modest as well...in case some of you perverts were about to suggest two weeks worth of bikinis.

I'm considering a wardrobe made up entirely of muslin salwar suits......
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Post by red » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:39 am

For boots, check out Bogs.
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Re: The Well Dressed Ootmik

Post by Toonce(s) » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:08 am

red wrote:For boots, check out Bogs.
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Post by UndertheGun » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:21 pm

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I'm a legislative aide to a state rep which means I'm suited up every day of the week when the legislature is in session. Yesterday I wore my sweet sport bike tie.

Depending on what the day holds, sport coats and goofy ties are acceptable but usually the uniform is suit, point collared shirt, leather soled shoes and so on. The sergeant-at-arms won't let men onto the floor of the House or Senate without jacket and tie so there's not much straying from the formula.

Over the years I've figured out what it takes to wear the suit costume comfortably. Basically, if your shirt and jacket don't fit well, you're going to have a shitty time. Luckily for (male) underpaid state employees, menswear doesn't really go out of fashion and the quality stuff holds up well. So jackets and suits can be found cheap and lightly used if you're willing to search on eBay or your local thrift shops. After a bit of tailoring you can piece together a passable "professional" wardrobe without breaking the bank. I'm sure some of the corporate lobbyists that pass through my office paid more for one suit than my entire closet -- not that you could tell by by looking at us in most cases.

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Re: The Well Dressed Ootmik

Post by AZRider » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:47 pm

Much to Buttzilla's dismay, my wardrobe is pretty set. Same damn square-toe harness boots every day (I have a "weekend " pair that are less wrecked and a "dress-up" pair that I keep polished for necktie occasions). For work I usually wear chinos and a Museum shirt, button front or tee. I Ruin clothes at work pretty fast, so cheap is important, like the $12 gray jeans I found at Costco. Weekends it's about the same, jeans or firehose work pants and either a button front work shirt or a motorcycle tee shirt, depending upon the weather. Turtleneck under if it's really cold, shorts and combat boots if it's damn sweaty. Postal Service garrison belt with a Guzzi buckle keeps my pants up and gives me a place to clip my phone and my Leatherman/mini MagLite combo holster.
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Re: The Well Dressed Ootmik

Post by Bo_9 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:41 am

I'm going to move up to legit "business casual" for work, not really a policy but it helps to get things done to the extent it'll be well worth it.
So I have to purge my current addiction to cargo pockets. I literally only own one pair of pants without them.
The big question is where the heck do you carry your behemoth smartphone with only a normal number of pockets. Hate to have anything in back pockets, so it's already wallet and change in one front pocket, keys in the other. I guess the back pockets would work since the wallet is already in a front pocket. Just learn to remove it whenever you sit. Gah! Too much stuff...
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