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Post by SSCAM » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:58 am

I know that this is a motorcycle related message board but for those of you who care...

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2009 Jetta TDI. I bought it Friday and picked it up yesterday. It is the nicest car that I have ever owned.

Carry on.


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Post by DerGolgo » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:28 am

Thank you for supporting the German economy!

Or the Bosnian or South African economy, depending on where it was actually assembled.
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Post by Sisyphus » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:31 am

...Or Mexico.

Congrats on your new ride. Now you need to accessorize properly:

http://www.tdiclub.com/

Everything you need to know that the dealer wouldn't tell you at the VW store and more.
Tips on maintenance, work-arounds, performance secrets yada yada.
I post there occasionally, there's a lot of smart people there and when I need information its where I go.
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Post by DerGolgo » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:40 am

Sisyphus wrote:...Or Mexico.
True, I was looking at the wrong model generation (they no longer produce in Bosnia, I wonder why...).

So anyway, China, India, South Africa, Russia or Mexico say thank you.

Nice ride, anyway.
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Post by SSCAM » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:23 am

Final assembly in Mexico. 35% German parts content (including engine and transmission), 35% Mexican content, 9% USA content and the rest is miscellaneous according to the window sticker.
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Post by SSCAM » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:36 am

Thanks for that! I'll check it out.
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Post by stiles » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:03 pm

Nifty! Let us know how you like it over the long term.
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Post by rc26 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:04 am

Tis nice to buy a new cage now and then. Just got one myself last week.

Bet that sucker sips fuel?
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Post by Sisyphus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:03 am

Don't know what the new ones get, but my 99-1/2 gets upward of 47 mpg. With a few mods and changes in drving style some guys are getting 60 or better.
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Post by GOSTAZ » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:44 am

Congrizzulations on Der Hooptiecana. Schnitzel con queso, anyone?
Hear they are quite fun to toss around!
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Post by Jaeger » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:10 am

Cool! Now if only more manufacturers would make diesel cars/pickups!!

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Post by rc26 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:35 am

Jaeger wrote:Cool! Now if only more manufacturers would make diesel cars/pickups!!

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Post by SomeMook » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:39 am

RC26 wrote:
Jaeger wrote:Cool! Now if only more manufacturers would make diesel cars/pickups!!

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Post by DerGolgo » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:45 am

Question: Is biodiesel in the picture?
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Post by SSCAM » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:48 pm

DerGolgo wrote:Question: Is biodiesel in the picture?
As much as I like the idea of biodiesel, it is not likely that I will go that route.
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Post by SSCAM » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:13 pm

Sisyphus wrote:Don't know what the new ones get, but my 99-1/2 gets upward of 47 mpg. With a few mods and changes in drving style some guys are getting 60 or better.
I took a road trip today, and I thought I would post some statistics from the MFD in case you were interested:

Total Distance: 467 miles
Total Time: 9 hours 0 minutes
Average Speed: 52 mph.
Average Fuel Consumption: 48.5 mpg (20.62 km/liter for our metric system loving friends).

I would estimate that the drive would break down as approximately 80% interstate/highway, 15% back roads, and 5% of stop and go in town traffic. I drove from Mercersburg, PA to Ocean City, MD and back. When I reached OC, the average fuel consumption was 49.8 mpg, but it decreased when I came home. I had it up to 49.9 at one point, but I just couldn't get it to 50.

Some of you might ask: How does this relate to motorcycling? It doesn't, but I can tell you that I now have a four wheeled vehicle that I can haul my family around in and get better mileage than my Ducati when I am riding solo. I still prefer the Duc, but the car is not without merit.
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Post by Beltway » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:16 am

You probably already know this, but...

There are two different types of fuel that folks often confuse with one another. One is Biodiesel, the other is Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO) or Greasel.

Biodiesel has had the glycol settled out of it in a process known as transesterification and can be mixed with dino--diesel in any proportion without any further treatment, additives, heaters or whathaveyou. There are almost certainly local manufacturers/refiners in your neck of the woods, which means you can support the local economy and run your vehicle on fuel that did not require long-distance transport.

Bio also has higher lubricity (much loved by your fuel injection system) and produces lower NOx emissions.

Greasel, on the other hand, is simply filtered (down to 2 microns) waste vegetable oil. It needs to be heated to around 150 degrees before it will behave like dino-diesel. This means it needs a separate tank with a heater (usually electric or engine-coolant based) and a solenoid that allows you to switch between the dino and WVO tanks. You have to start the engine on the dino and run it until the WVO tank is up to temp, then switch over. It is equally important that you switch back to dino and run the motor on that for a few minutes before shutting down, otherwise you'll have fuel lines and injectors full of congealed fat and much cleaning to do.

Anywho, the point of this was to say that you can use high-quality biodiesel in your VW without doing anything but putting it in the tank. The newer models have the right type of fuel lines and seals (viton) so you really shouldn't have any trouble. Check out the various tdi sites to make sure yours is compatible.

Enjoy your new ride!
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Post by xtian » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:21 am

you mean 4.85L/100km ?
wow...
I'm not really from around here.

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Post by SSCAM » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:28 am

xtian wrote:you mean 4.85L/100km ?
wow...
Yes. Is L/100km the standard rate that fuel consumption is measured over there?
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Post by Bigshankhank » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:28 am

Beltway wrote:You probably already know this, but...

There are two different types of fuel that folks often confuse with one another. One is Biodiesel, the other is Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO) or Greasel.

Biodiesel has had the glycol settled out of it in a process known as transesterification and can be mixed with dino--diesel in any proportion without any further treatment, additives, heaters or whathaveyou. There are almost certainly local manufacturers/refiners in your neck of the woods, which means you can support the local economy and run your vehicle on fuel that did not require long-distance transport.

Bio also has higher lubricity (much loved by your fuel injection system) and produces lower NOx emissions.

Greasel, on the other hand, is simply filtered (down to 2 microns) waste vegetable oil. It needs to be heated to around 150 degrees before it will behave like dino-diesel. This means it needs a separate tank with a heater (usually electric or engine-coolant based) and a solenoid that allows you to switch between the dino and WVO tanks. You have to start the engine on the dino and run it until the WVO tank is up to temp, then switch over. It is equally important that you switch back to dino and run the motor on that for a few minutes before shutting down, otherwise you'll have fuel lines and injectors full of congealed fat and much cleaning to do.

Anywho, the point of this was to say that you can use high-quality biodiesel in your VW without doing anything but putting it in the tank. The newer models have the right type of fuel lines and seals (viton) so you really shouldn't have any trouble. Check out the various tdi sites to make sure yours is compatible.

Enjoy your new ride!
Interesting, I used to work with a tilesetter w/ a VW truck-thingy that he converted to, as you call it, greasel. He hated the way the car ran but he made the fuel himself and had been running it essentially for free for over three years. But again, he only used that car for work. I recall it was hell to start up at th end of the day, also. So that colored my opinion of biodiesel assuming it was all poor quality like that. Mayhaps I was wrong.
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Post by SSCAM » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:35 am

I have no plans for now to run biodiesel in my Jetta. There is an excellent FAQ section on the topic over on the <a href="http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=82466" target="_blank">TDI forum</a> that Sisyphus linked me over to. They actually have a whole forum dedicated to alternative fuels discussions. It definitely is a popular subject.
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Post by xtian » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:18 am

supersweetcoolawesomeMatt wrote:
xtian wrote:you mean 4.85L/100km ?
wow...
Yes. Is L/100km the standard rate that fuel consumption is measured over there?
yes it is
I'm not really from around here.

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