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Prop 8 and men in white robes with silly-looking hats
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:32 am
by FastCat
I cannot even begin to enumerate the ways in which this is fucked-up as a football-bat:
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... source=rss
The U.S. Supreme Court, sharply divided along its usual conservative-liberal lines, on Wednesday banned the broadcast of the Proposition 8 trial now unfolding in the federal courthouse here, putting a swift end to Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker's planned experiment to post the proceedings on his court's Web site through YouTube.
Death-squads in third-world countries hide their faces. The KKK hides their faces. THis is complete and utter bullshit. I'm angry. ...give me a few minutes and ask me again and I'll tell you how I *really* feel.
(grumble)
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:37 am
by guitargeek
What are they afraid of?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:50 pm
by erosvamp
guitargeek wrote:What are they afraid of?
Riots.
I would go to the streets.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:15 pm
by Sisyphus
Prop. 8 backers had challenged Walker's order allowing cameras in his courtroom, arguing a number of their witnesses feared they'd be exposed to harassment and intimidation if their testimony were broadcast on the Internet.
This could be read as, "Prop. 8 backers had challenged Walker's order allowing cameras in his courtroom, arguing a number of their witnesses feared they'd be exposed if their testimony were broadcast on the Internet."
Yeah, they want to make sure everyone has to follow their set of ideals, but they don't want to stand up and identify themselves. There's big fight here in Maine about who funded the lastest campaign to stop same-sex marriage. Backers didn't want to be identified.
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:26 pm
by roadmissile
I'm gonna broadly generalize here and ask why it is that religious nuts blow up abortion clinics, but you never hear of a secular nut blowing up say, the morman temple?
To me the answer is obvious, but is clearly not set in stone, and while I feel the people in question are cowardly, I don't feel their fears are unfounded.
/RM
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:00 pm
by FastCat
roadmissile wrote:
...I don't feel their fears are unfounded.
/RM
Um, ok, I'll bite.
What scares you about acknowledging the right of homosexuals to enter into a relationship and have it recognized by the state as a "marriage"?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:23 pm
by erosvamp
FastCat wrote:roadmissile wrote:
...I don't feel their fears are unfounded.
/RM
Um, ok, I'll bite.
What scares you about acknowledging the right of homosexuals to enter into a relationship and have it recognized by the state as a "marriage"?
He's afraid to come out of the closet... some homo might force him, by gun point, to get married. This, of course, is equally as scary as some chick forcing him into marriage.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:42 am
by piccini9
I may have read the article wrong, but would this be the first time a California State Supreme Court hearing would be televised?
And did the United States Supreme Court forbid them from airing it?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:23 am
by erosvamp
Rev wrote:
Also, it keeps pastel sketch artists in business.
+1
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:20 am
by smashinator
erosvamp wrote:FastCat wrote:roadmissile wrote:
...I don't feel their fears are unfounded.
/RM
Um, ok, I'll bite.
What scares you about acknowledging the right of homosexuals to enter into a relationship and have it recognized by the state as a "marriage"?
He's afraid to come out of the closet... some homo might force him, by gun point, to get married. This, of course, is equally as scary as some chick forcing him into marriage.
I suspect what roadmissle meant was that he thinks the witnesses are right to be afraid they'd be harassed, not that the witnesses are correct about gay marriage.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:28 am
by roadmissile
smashinator wrote:erosvamp wrote:FastCat wrote:roadmissile wrote:
...I don't feel their fears are unfounded.
/RM
Um, ok, I'll bite.
What scares you about acknowledging the right of homosexuals to enter into a relationship and have it recognized by the state as a "marriage"?
He's afraid to come out of the closet... some homo might force him, by gun point, to get married. This, of course, is equally as scary as some chick forcing him into marriage.
I suspect what roadmissle meant was that he thinks the witnesses are right to be afraid they'd be harassed, not that the witnesses are correct about gay marriage.
I'm relieved someone got it.
If I were going to approach it from the perspective of some of the folks in question I might replace 'harassed' with 'stabbed in the face by some queeny hairdresser', but otherwise that's perfect.
I certainly don't agree with banning gay marriage, personally I feel people should have the right to lose half their stuff regardless of sexual orientation.
/RM
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:33 am
by guitargeek
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:49 pm
by 12ci
pretty good.
it would be better if he was dumping her for a guy.
or she's dumping him for a woman.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:48 pm
by Sisyphus
roadmissile wrote:['stabbed in the face by some queeny hairdresser'/RM
That's funny. Got the 'ole beer out the nose on that one.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:39 am
by goose
erosvamp wrote:FastCat wrote:roadmissile wrote:
...I don't feel their fears are unfounded.
/RM
Um, ok, I'll bite.
What scares you about acknowledging the right of homosexuals to enter into a relationship and have it recognized by the state as a "marriage"?
He's afraid to come out of the closet... some homo might force him, by gun point, to get married. This, of course, is equally as scary as some chick forcing him into marriage.
Actually, several persons who donated money to the prop 8 campaigns have received threats on their person and businesses for making said contributions and frankly our judicial system has never been much for media coverage. Think about it, ever hear of a camera present in chambers or jury deliberations? Logically, that should be fine too. The chilling effect would be disasterous.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:35 pm
by problemaddict
PROP 8 IS GAY
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:39 pm
by SomeMook
problemaddict wrote:PROP 8 IS GAY
That so needs to be a bumper sticker, or a billboard.
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:30 am
by problemaddict
I stole it from
these guys. But it doesn't look like their store is up anymore. Googling gets you links for shirts and stickers from other places...
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:56 pm
by srg
problemaddict wrote:PROP 8 IS GAY
fixed
PROP 8 IS GAY!