UTMC

I know most of us have said it, or at least THOUGHT it at some point, when you find out that the girl/guy you were dating turned out to be crazy, mean, or full of shit.

Well I found out completely by accident today that one of my not so great ex girlfriends actually DID come with a fucking warning tattooed on her side.

She had this rose with the words "And then she placed the rose behind her ear and cried herself to sleep" in swirly text around it. When I asked the girl what it meant, I never got a very concrete answer; just that it was from a poem she had read. I tried to find where it came from, but the one poem I found wasn't very enlightening as to why she would get it tattooed.

Well I'm listening to the radio today, and there's this really powerful piece of prose being read by this really amazing and powerful black woman.

I get into it and turn it up, and it's about this woman who goes out and seduces men with the aim of becoming "a memory -a wound- for any man arrogant enough to want her." She gets them to fall in love, and then coldly and brutally kicks them out of her house.

Four fucking guesses what the last line is.

As it turns out, the poem I found when trying to figure out what that elusive quote on my girlfriend was about is just the little end snippet of this piece.
From what I can tell, when put into the context of the rest of the play from which it came, that particular piece is about gender vengeance for being assaulted/subjugated/what-have-you by other men in the past. It seems like a mixture of longing, hatred and self loathing. Heavy shit!
Not that it matters now, but I'll be goddamned, that girl came with a fucking warning.

I don't know whether to feel sorry for the broad, or pissed off that she had "I'm purposely going to fuck you over" written on her side, and then purposely fucked me over!

Yowsers!

did she mention me ?

you sure can pick'em. Seriously WAFS, you seem to be attracted to the femme fatale. Ever think of changing your pace? Trust me, none of these girls are going to change for you no matter how nice/great/better than their last guy you are. just an observation.

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goose wrote:you sure can pick'em. Seriously WAFS, you seem to be attracted to the femme fatale. Ever think of changing your pace? Trust me, none of these girls are going to change for you no matter how nice/great/better than their last guy you are. just an observation.

Oh yeah, my pace is waaaay different than it was before. Crazy girls don't need boyfriends, they need fucking therapists, and that I am not.
My girlfriend now? One of the reasons I like her is because she's not a fucking basket case, and comes loaded with less baggage than I do.

It's refreshing.

Oh, and just the few posts that are on this thread have already made me laugh my ass off.

Just like parking spaces: The ones that look good are either taken or handicapped.

Yeah, don't let it get to you. There's a lid for every pot.

Sisyphus wrote:Yeah, don't let it get to you. There's a lid for every pot.

Oh, it's not getting to me, I was just amazed is all.

Hey, at least you got some type of firm answer. I've dated some girls with issues - hell, everyone has issues - but never anyone who has fucked me over just for the sake of doing so because of the bad deeds done by other guys in their past.

That strikes me as pretty evil, going out of your way to hurt other innocents just because someone of that gender hurt you.

WAFS, that is funny that the woman actually had a warning label attached. Since you never got a straight answer from her on the tattoo I have to wonder if she even understood the verse.

The only “really” crazy woman I dated was while I was going to Morgan State in MD, the young lady’s Grandmother put a curse on me.
We were having an argument when she just picked up the phone and called her grandma, in Haiti, and just like that cursed.
So yep, just kind of walked away from that one…

Oh, the girl totally knew what it meant, and what she was doing (this, I found out later). She was just dodging the question. She was a smart cookie. One of the smartest cookies, actually.

I found the piece. It's by Ntozake Shange (Entoe-zahKAY ShonGAY) from a play "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide/When the Rainbow Is Enuf."

The poem is called "One."

You can find most of it here: http://tinyurl.com/y97d9ld
That link is to google books, but the first page of the poem is cut off (though you get basically the same effect with the ones that are there).
Page 32, though if you just scroll down it's actually only the 6th page on the preview.

Or, if you are good with spoken poetry and crappy recording (which I'm not) below is the full length version as performed on stage.

I'm glad I stumbled across that radio program. After reading it a billion times, I always wondered about that goddamned tattoo. On the ribcage, no less.
The fucked up thing is that is the spot I would often pet her when we were lying in bed together. I'd trace the words and the outline of the tat over and over, and I'm willing to bet that everytime I did it, it would just drive home the damage even more.

Craaaazy girl.
(But at least she didn't voodoo curse me!)

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Something tells me she was crazy-good in bed, though. Right?
I've dated (and more) my share of batshit damaged women as well and in the end had to accept the fact that it was MY fault. Time and again I would find these obviously damaged women and my "White Knight" syndrome would kick in and I felt like only I could save them. In the end, it was me that got hurt...a lot. It took a couple of years of working with a really good therapist to figure out what I was doing and learn to consciously break that habit and since then I've been nothing but happy.
Not that I'm saying that's what you're doing...just saying.

What Ames said. All of it.

Though personally I always referred to it as the "Galahad Complex."

--Jaeger

I recognized this on my own, and broke the cycle. I've since kicked a few crazy women to the curb, as soon as they showed themselves to be so.

I'm no-one's fucking savior, and I'm done sacrificing my emotions and sanity to try and help crazy people bring about any sort of, well, anything really.
I'm still friends with a few of my crazy exes, and I like it that way. Friends is fine, as long as it's removed enough where I'm just a sane guy who someone can ask for advice, instead of smearing my life with rancid bullshit.

Oh, and of course she was good in bed.
Crazy is ALWAYS good in bed!

Sometimes when we get to the other side of the river, it turns out that we were the frog, no matter how much we denied it, and no matter how much they refused to believe it. The scorpion on the other hand, was always a scorpion.

If only scorpions weren't so damn good in bed

Betcha didn't see that one coming.

WeAintFoundShit wrote: I'm just a sane guy

this thread keeps gettin better and better...

WAFS, do you mean to imply that you are sane? or merely relative to the women you've surrounded yourself with?

i mean, in my experience, it's sort of a "birds of a feather" kinda deal...

bonus points for the scorpion pic!

Beemer Dan wrote:The scorpion on the other hand, was always a scorpion.

If only scorpions weren't so damn good in bed

Times one billion gazillion.

Sane relative to most of the women, and more specifically, the women's other boyfriends.

We all have our own issues, after all.

WeAintFoundShit wrote:
We all have our own issues, after all.

Some people have issues; others have bound volumes.

--Jaeger

Some of my exes have more issues than National Geographic.

The rest just have issues bigger than a double-bonus Sunday New York Times.

The more stories I tell, the more ammo ButtZilla has to tease me, so I'm not telling her any more.

But, DAMN a few of them were good in bed.
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Beemer Dan wrote:If only scorpions weren't so damn good in bed

I'll take fire over water any day of the week... the depth of the scorp's are lovely but I like heat. Scorp's are awesome, if and only if, they have internal stability. Most don't. Hence the crazy.

I prefer the centaur.

WeAintFoundShit wrote:

*Shutters*

erosvamp wrote: I prefer the centaur.

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--Jaeger

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--Jaeger

that was awesome.

This guy is kinda awesome.

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