This is all I need now
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:08 pm
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This is all I need now
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:40 pm
nnnnnnnnnnnng rubs furiously
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:52 pm
the airport i skydive out of is home to quite a few coldwar jets. many in this class, in fine condition, may be had for under 100k...though, maintenance cost seem to be quite absorbinent.
do you fly matpoc? i'm not licensed, but i have the skillz. you buy it, i'll fly. deal?
do you fly matpoc? i'm not licensed, but i have the skillz. you buy it, i'll fly. deal?
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:59 pm
Opening price about the same as your average färklepigmoto.
Beautiful aircraft.
Beautiful aircraft.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:20 pm
WANT SO HARD! 
MUST GET JET!
MUST GET JET!
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:37 pm
Wow, something that makes off-warranty Desmosedici ownership costs seem reasonable.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:38 am
I was on ebay the other day and bid on this. Slightly cheaper than a MIG.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0643547359
I did a search using "Soviet" and came up with all kinds of stuff. Spacesuits...on and on.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Soviet-SPACE-helmet ... 1c0e02a2b9
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0643547359
I did a search using "Soviet" and came up with all kinds of stuff. Spacesuits...on and on.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Soviet-SPACE-helmet ... 1c0e02a2b9
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:38 am
Bah. Hold out for the 31.
[voice in head]"Must think in Russian. Think in Russian!"[/voice in head]
[voice in head]"Must think in Russian. Think in Russian!"[/voice in head]
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:28 am
Mig21 is quite impressive bird, capable of Mach2 and it was designed and put in service in the 50's when Chuck was still chasing Mach2 in "X" prototypes
Yes, it's pricey to maintain but even more for fuel coast, you will need 3 stops to go coast to coast, full tank range is under 1000 mi, so forget about trans-Atlantic flights unless you can get USAF to refuel you mid-air.
If I had Bill Gates money you know this thing would be mine!
Mach2, 60,000' ceiling, need I say more?
Also Wiki claims that fully serviced with modern avionics and turbine it will fetch $400K, guess this one needs about $350K in repairs?
Yes, it's pricey to maintain but even more for fuel coast, you will need 3 stops to go coast to coast, full tank range is under 1000 mi, so forget about trans-Atlantic flights unless you can get USAF to refuel you mid-air.
If I had Bill Gates money you know this thing would be mine!
Mach2, 60,000' ceiling, need I say more?
Also Wiki claims that fully serviced with modern avionics and turbine it will fetch $400K, guess this one needs about $350K in repairs?
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:02 am
I can just imagine Daniil locked inside that canopy, laughing at you while he initiates the turbine startup sequence, and you and your wife standing on the wing going 'hey, hey, not funny, you stop that ignition sequence right now'...
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:28 am
There are, apparently, a number of people in Britain who, over the last few decades, took it upon themselves to save beautiful aircraft from the scrapheaps. A de-militarized plane (stripped of all useful parts), knackered airframe and engine can be had quite cheaply, it appears (just think about all the people who convert a tired old commuter 727 or the like into a house). And rather than seeing one cut up, having a fighter play gate-guard for your front lawn seems like the humane thing to do.
But flying such an old plane, that could be an entirely different kettle of fish.
A lot of these old planes had their type certificates surrendered at some point, so you'd need to do a lot of very expensive things to get one registered as an experimental, from what I understand (at least in Europe. Concorde was officially grounded when Airbus surrendered the type certificate).
Did the FAA ever issue a type certificate for these (maybe for the Air Force training units that used Russian planes)?
But flying such an old plane, that could be an entirely different kettle of fish.
A lot of these old planes had their type certificates surrendered at some point, so you'd need to do a lot of very expensive things to get one registered as an experimental, from what I understand (at least in Europe. Concorde was officially grounded when Airbus surrendered the type certificate).
Did the FAA ever issue a type certificate for these (maybe for the Air Force training units that used Russian planes)?
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:58 am
I don't know about certification, but there have definitely been private pilots flying MiGs in the USA. They've been in airshows and whatnot so I would assume that everything is above board.
EDIT: Also, though this airframe dates from 1964, they were still making MiG-21s until 1985 so it's probably not entirely that old, and not-quite-so-old parts are out there.
EDIT: Also, though this airframe dates from 1964, they were still making MiG-21s until 1985 so it's probably not entirely that old, and not-quite-so-old parts are out there.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:29 pm
How far is Tulsa from your house?guitargeek wrote:nnnnnnnnnnnng rubs furiously
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:27 pm
Wow, wonder what it will actually go for?To be flight ready needs: Condition Inspection and tires.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:27 pm
Markings in 3rd pic look like aggressor squadron design, but Google Images produces no match.
In the early 1990's when I was at Museum of Flight in Seattle, one of our trustees bought us a MiG from the Russian govt. for our collection. It got locked up by customs in Germany (where it was supposed to get loaded from rail to ship) because it hadn't been demilitarized. Some customs agent noticed the cannons were loaded with live ammo. I got a new job before that got sorted.
In the early 1990's when I was at Museum of Flight in Seattle, one of our trustees bought us a MiG from the Russian govt. for our collection. It got locked up by customs in Germany (where it was supposed to get loaded from rail to ship) because it hadn't been demilitarized. Some customs agent noticed the cannons were loaded with live ammo. I got a new job before that got sorted.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:38 am
Hunnert miles or so.bndgkmf wrote:How far is Tulsa from your house?guitargeek wrote:nnnnnnnnnnnng rubs furiously