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...after all these years, I still don't see the appeal.

Well, maybe you don't but congress certainly does.

They voted against ending the armed forces sponsorship of NASCAR, while at the same time voting to kill funding to Planned Parenthood, NPR, and PBS. And the NOAA, just for kicks.

Wonderful.

thack wrote:Well, maybe you don't but congress certainly does.

They voted against ending the armed forces sponsorship of NASCAR, while at the same time voting to kill funding to Planned Parenthood, NPR, and PBS. And the NOAA, just for kicks.

Wonderful.

Umm . . . I don't think NASCAR preservation is exactly the point here. It might have a little something to do with recruiting.

...is stupid?

While NAPCAR was going roundy round I managed to pull and rebuild my SuMo forks, put them back on the bike and get back on the couch before the checkered. Some redneck in the grand stands managed to put away a 30-rack of Bud and 20 lbs of food in the same time frame.

It's always better with DVR remote in hand

Eh, I went to the Toronto Indy once, CART/IRL race held on city streets. Open wheel racing mostly, but one of the sideline events was a CASCAR race, which was in many ways more entertaining than the headline event.
A road course isn't an oval, of course, which may have had something to do with it, but still I'd probably enjoy the left (or is it right?) turns only variety too, I mean ovals certainly don't hurt Speedway or Flattrack.
In person, of course. I couldn't watch it on tv.

I went to a "run what ya brung" event at a dragstrip once while working in SC. It was the highlight of my trip.
I highly recommend attending one of these events. You will NOT be disappointed.

Oval track has nothing on the "local element" bringing what they brung to the strip.

I went to Indy Car race last summer at The Glen, took my 2 year old with me, both had fun mainly because it wasn't as crowded as NASCAR event would be. But no more, NASCAR owned historic Watkins Glenn decided not to extend Indy contract, probably because they make 10x form a single NASCAR event and don't want to bother with small time series. That's why I hate NASCAR! They also bought NHIS and almost completely got rid of motorcycle racing, first the AMA left (before the DMG takeover) and then they moved the Nationals to a different date from Laconia Bike week, now the track is closed during bike week.

rc26 wrote:...after all these years, I still don't see the appeal.

Me either, but that's because we're liberal commie fags who hate America

What's nascar?

Seems odd that they go to the left.

Sadly, the lame ass racing action is the best thing about NASCAR...

Sisyphus wrote:I went to a "run what ya brung" event at a dragstrip once while working in SC. It was the highlight of my trip.
I highly recommend attending one of these events. You will NOT be disappointed.

Oval track has nothing on the "local element" bringing what they brung to the strip.

Agreed! I went to a few dirt track races in GA, where they have a separate run-what-you-may race and indeed, it is a riot. I recall a tubbed out 240Z with a small block chevy that absolutely stomped anything else there, and there was some pretty serious stuff there. This was after a day of watching vintage races over at Road Atlanta next door. Fun day.

These guys had stuff like the work truck with the air compressor sliding around in the bed and the girlfriend in the passenger seat, a few minivans, kids with dad's car (lotsa those), more than a few mustangs, some bikes, one of which appeared to be piloted by a 12-year old and did 118 on a 1/8 mile track, half of that was wheelie, a Miata which performed as expected...
But the highlight of the evening was the rocket car. Nothing like standing thirty feet away from one of those things. I thought my chest was going to cave in!

As to Nascar, rent an RV and go one weekend. Yes its a redneck heaven, but if you rely on the knowledge that noone you know will see you, its what I imagine Burning Man is like except they clean the toilets.
Seriously, the RV lot is an absolute blast.

I'd much rather go watch this guy race than some multi millionaire, owned by Humongous Conglomerate Incorporated.
http://www.turbovan.net/van.html

And much as I hate to say it, it seems a big part of the appeal of NASCAR is that 'Mercans can go to a big sporting event without having to rub elbows with Niggras.

piccini9 wrote: And much as I hate to say it, it seems a big part of the appeal of NASCAR is that 'Mercans can go to a big sporting event without having to rub elbows with Niggras.

So in your theory it is basically hockey for the south.





Speaking of fast minivans-

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Mean Chuck wrote:

piccini9 wrote: And much as I hate to say it, it seems a big part of the appeal of NASCAR is that 'Mercans can go to a big sporting event without having to rub elbows with Niggras.

So in your theory it is basically hockey for the south.





Speaking of fast minivans-

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Ironically, the van races draw about the same amount of spectators as AMA/DMG superbike races do at Fontana. sad

piccini9 wrote: And much as I hate to say it, it seems a big part of the appeal of NASCAR is that 'Mercans can go to a big sporting event without having to rub elbows with Niggras.

Funniest thing I've read today!

It just looks like a bunch of self centered jackasses in crappy cars that have way too much money into em, way too much blingy crap and they're all practicing making illegal left-hand turns. Pigfuckers!

While I agree with most of what is said, again I return to my comment earlier. If'n you want to party, rent an RV, get a few coolers of beer, and camp out in the infield. Don't allow anyone to take your picture.

Bigshankhank wrote:While I agree with most of what is said, again I return to my comment earlier. If'n you want to party, rent an RV, get a few coolers of beer, and camp out in the infield. Don't allow anyone to take your picture.

Who the hell wants to party with rednecks?


I'm sure it'll entail copious amounts of shitty beer and more Toby Keith than any normal human can stand. The people watching might be good though....

motorpsycho67 wrote:

Bigshankhank wrote:While I agree with most of what is said, again I return to my comment earlier. If'n you want to party, rent an RV, get a few coolers of beer, and camp out in the infield. Don't allow anyone to take your picture.

Who the hell wants to party with rednecks?


I'm sure it'll entail copious amounts of shitty beer and more Toby Keith than any normal human can stand. The people watching might be good though....

Wel, you gotta party with someone, and shitty beer is still beer, take a step outside of your shell and try something different.
Yes, the people watching does make WalMart look like the Tajma-fucking-hal.

I like crappy beer. Shitty beer on the other hand...not so much.

Bigshankhank wrote:Wel, you gotta party with someone, and shitty beer is still beer, take a step outside of your shell and try something different.

Although I haven't done the nascar RV party, the above wisdom is most difficult to find any fault in. It's like those dreams where you go to work and you're not wearing pants... once you get past the initial shock/shame and realize it's a dream you can really have a blast!

Bigshankhank wrote:

motorpsycho67 wrote:

Bigshankhank wrote:While I agree with most of what is said, again I return to my comment earlier. If'n you want to party, rent an RV, get a few coolers of beer, and camp out in the infield. Don't allow anyone to take your picture.

Who the hell wants to party with rednecks?


I'm sure it'll entail copious amounts of shitty beer and more Toby Keith than any normal human can stand. The people watching might be good though....

Wel, you gotta party with someone, and shitty beer is still beer, take a step outside of your shell and try something different.
Yes, the people watching does make WalMart look like the Tajma-fucking-hal.

I do different stuff as often as possible, but shitty beer will never be a part of it. Life is too short to drink swill, especially when good beer is abundant.

IMO, that's like saying "You know, I prefer good music, but I suppose I can listen to Celine Dion all night"

When people ask me why I won't drink cheap beer, I say "Do you also prefer McDonalds over a nice home cooked meal?"

Yeah, I wear the Beer Snob badge proudly.

motorpsycho67 wrote:

Bigshankhank wrote:

motorpsycho67 wrote:

Bigshankhank wrote:While I agree with most of what is said, again I return to my comment earlier. If'n you want to party, rent an RV, get a few coolers of beer, and camp out in the infield. Don't allow anyone to take your picture.

Who the hell wants to party with rednecks?


I'm sure it'll entail copious amounts of shitty beer and more Toby Keith than any normal human can stand. The people watching might be good though....

Wel, you gotta party with someone, and shitty beer is still beer, take a step outside of your shell and try something different.
Yes, the people watching does make WalMart look like the Tajma-fucking-hal.

I do different stuff as often as possible, but shitty beer will never be a part of it. Life is too short to drink swill, especially when good beer is abundant.

IMO, that's like saying "You know, I prefer good music, but I suppose I can listen to Celine Dion all night"

When people ask me why I won't drink cheap beer, I say "Do you also prefer McDonalds over a nice home cooked meal?"

Yeah, I wear the Beer Snob badge proudly.

I'm a snob about most things (only use Sea Salt, real maple syrup, and expensive olive oil), however, I very much enjoy McDonald's in the right context, as do I enjoy PBR and other cheap American beers. I hate Celine Dion, but I'll dance my ass off to Bel Biv Devoe at the right party.

Life's too short to pass up a good time, and I would totally do the RV thing at NASCAR (on somebody else's dime) if I had the chance. I'm sure in person, with all the beer, "culture", and unbelievable engine noise, it is an absolute hoot. I just can't fathom how people sit in front of a TV to watch it.

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motorpsycho67 wrote:

Bigshankhank wrote:

motorpsycho67 wrote:

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I'm a snob about most things (only use Sea Salt, real maple syrup, and expensive olive oil), however, I very much enjoy McDonald's in the right context, as do I enjoy PBR and other cheap American beers. I hate Celine Dion, but I'll dance my ass off to Bel Biv Devoe at the right party.

Life's too short to pass up a good time, and I would totally do the RV thing at NASCAR (on somebody else's dime) if I had the chance. I'm sure in person, with all the beer, "culture", and unbelievable engine noise, it is an absolute hoot. I just can't fathom how people sit in front of a TV to watch it.

On TV? I would enjoy spending four hours on a Sunday with my dick in a vise more than watching that shit on TV. Again the experience of being there, and not having to drive home, that's where the RV comes in handy, is what is so fucking fun.
And since we seem to focusing way too much on the cheap beer issue, you have the option of bringing your own, you know. The partry doesn't stop just beacuse the race isn't running, the campground goes all weekend long. I have only been to Daytona and Homestead (both in Florida), but I would really love to see what Talledega is like. From what I have heard, yeah there's probably more than an average number of people who I would want to fight, and I am small guy so I don't want to fight very many folks, but it supposed to be the center of NASCAR debauchery.

based on theoretical facts, how would you advocate drag racing compared to nascar? I mean... ok, they only turn left but .. at least they do turn !

- strictly rhetorical question, i'm a big fan of drag racing and I have a shameless interest in oval racing, it's all so exotic to me, all in all the very first European races were straight line open roads city to city full speed competitions, nascar is just perpetuating these kind of races from the early XX century into more organised context, the way maybe somebody will have to adapt paris-dakar style races to a closed area one of these days, the same way drag racing is organising red light races, while the other more sophisticated forms or racing only led to F1 and money pits and heavily legislated boring self centered marketing masturbation.