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Journey into Fukushima
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:52 am
by DerGolgo
Alternating between creepy, eerie and scary.
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But the feral dogs seem to be well behaved.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:42 pm
by goose
wow, that was creepy. I find it odd how the plant has fallen off the news radar here. In SF, they started talking about how the fallout was going to travel over the Pacific and fall here. In typical SF fashion, there was an air of panic about it, then . . . . nothing.
I don't think it has been in the news all week here (though the tsunami crap that is circling the Pacific has been in the news a lot). Did they cap this thing? Is it still spewing out shit tons of radiation? Has it gotten so bad that nobody can go in there and fix anything? Frankly, I don't trust the Japanese government or media to tell the real story (how many times did we hear it was all under control then, blammo . . . shit blowed up?!) Man, I really hope this isn't another Cherynobyl.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:28 pm
by Sisyphus
Not good. Not good. Those guys got that close to it and it was almost sunset. Then, I imagine they had to navigate their way out in the dark...
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:33 pm
by rolly
goose wrote:wow, that was creepy. I find it odd how the plant has fallen off the news radar here. In SF, they started talking about how the fallout was going to travel over the Pacific and fall here. In typical SF fashion, there was an air of panic about it, then . . . . nothing.
I don't think it has been in the news all week here (though the tsunami crap that is circling the Pacific has been in the news a lot). Did they cap this thing? Is it still spewing out shit tons of radiation? Has it gotten so bad that nobody can go in there and fix anything? Frankly, I don't trust the Japanese government or media to tell the real story (how many times did we hear it was all under control then, blammo . . . shit blowed up?!) Man, I really hope this isn't another Cherynobyl.
From the
International Atomic Energy Agency, season to taste:
Overall, the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi plant remains very serious although there are early signs of recovery in some functions such as electrical power and instrumentation.
As of 6 April, TEPCO started injecting nitrogen gas to Unit 1 containment vessel to reduce the possibility of hydrogen combustion within the containment vessel.
The leakage of highly contaminated water from the 20 cm crack in the cable storage pit of Unit 2 directly to the sea reported on 2 April was stopped by injection of coagulation agents (liquid glass) on 5 April. Additional activities to secure the leak were reported finished on 6 April.
To prevent discharge of contaminated water from the Fukushima Plant to the open sea, construction work was carried out at the breakwater in the southern part of the Plant on 5 April.
In Unit 1 fresh water has been continuously injected into the reactor pressure vessel through feed-water line at an indicated flow rate of 6 m3/h using a temporary electric pump with off-site power. In Units 2 and 3 fresh water is being injected into the reactor pressure vessels continuously through the fire extinguisher lines at indicated rates of 8 m3/h and 7 m3/h using temporary electric pumps with off-site power.
The reactor pressure vessels' temperatures remain above cold shutdown conditions (normally less than 95 °C). In Unit 1 indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the RPV is 224 °C and at the bottom of RPV is 117 °C. The pressure in the RPV is increasing as indicated on both channels of instrumentation. NISA has indicated that some instruments in the reactor vessel may not be working properly. Drywell pressure is increasing slightly due to the addition of nitrogen. In Unit 2 the indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the RPV is 144 °C. The temperature at the bottom of RPV was not reported. Indicated Drywell pressure remains at atmospheric pressure. In Unit 3 the indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the RPV is 88 °C and at the bottom of RPV is 112 °C. Fresh water was sprayed onto the spent fuel pool by concrete pump vehicle (50t/h) from 21:53 UTC, 6 April.
No change in status in Units 4, 5 and 6 and the Common Spent Fuel Storage Facility…
http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsu ... ate01.html
Still hot. Recently leaking contaminated water into the ocean, apparently stopped. Not another Chernobyl but pretty serious.
I feel bad for those dogs.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:08 pm
by Jonny
rolly wrote:Still hot. Recently leaking contaminated water into the ocean, apparently stopped. Not another Chernobyl but pretty serious.
From what the news on the telly has been reporting here, contaminated water is still is still flowing into the Pacific.
And yes, we are getting out of here...
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:21 pm
by rolly
Jonny wrote:rolly wrote:Still hot. Recently leaking contaminated water into the ocean, apparently stopped. Not another Chernobyl but pretty serious.
From what the news on the telly has been reporting here, contaminated water is still is still flowing into the Pacific.
And yes, we are getting out of here...
I thought it sounded a bit optimistic, the ongoing theme has been that things turn out to be worse than initially announced.
Godspeed Jonny.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:40 pm
by Sisyphus
I can guess what those dogs have been eating...
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:12 am
by Bigshankhank
Safe travels Johnny.
It may sound glib, but I am fascinated with everything happening recently. Gov't upheavals (home and abroad), naturally begat nuclear disasters, we just had a kid at a local middle school what brought a backpack full of molotovs to school and stabbed an officer who tried to apprehend him, there's some wild shit in the wind right now and I can't help but revel in the crazy a bit.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:33 am
by DerGolgo
Last thing I heard, regarding the water, they managed to stop the leak of highly radioactive water, but they are seriously running out of space to store it, what with the vast amounts that are being pumped in.
So now they are intentionally draining slightly radioactive water to make more room for the highly radioactive water, of which there are something like 15 thousands gallons that need to be stored somewhere.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:14 pm
by DerGolgo
Something bad happened in block 1 yesterday.
That scale is in Sievert. Not micro-Sievert, actual Sievert (so probably measured inside the containment).
http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=1
Mirror:
http://twitpic.com/4ioajl/full
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:10 am
by Jonny
DerGolgo wrote:Last thing I heard, regarding the water, they managed to stop the leak of highly radioactive water, but they are seriously running out of space to store it, what with the vast amounts that are being pumped in.
So now they are intentionally draining slightly radioactive water to make more room for the highly radioactive water, of which there are something like 15 thousands gallons that need to be stored somewhere.
Yeah, that's what I've been hearing, too.
This video has been getting quite a bit of air play in Japan, and the two journalists have gained a certain celebrity, if you will. I saw some other excerpts from their report tonight, one being of particular interest where they interviewed an older gent who refuses to leave his home within the 20km exclusion zone around the power plant. It turns out there are more than 100 people who are still living within the exclusion zone, and due mainly to old age and such a strong family and historical connection to the place where they live, have decided to stay no matter what. It's pretty hard to watch.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:41 am
by Metalredneck
We have a nuke plant about 30 miles south of here. Their monitors started pickng up radiation from Japan on Monday. Yee-haw.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:26 am
by calamari kid
Transient re-criticality most likely. They've been experiencing these spikes all along. I've read some analysis that evidence points to a melt through in the #1 reactor.