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Best Public Service Announcement Ever
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:58 pm
by goose
I simply wish I had known . . .
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:27 pm
by piccini9
I thought briefly of going to Law School about twelve years ago. Then I remembered that I didn't even really go to High School, and only had one semester of regular undergraduate school, with a full course-load of incompletes because I hate school so much I can actually taste it.
Why would anyone want to go to Law School? Goose?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:47 pm
by calamari kid
I'll have to see what Mrs C thinks of this.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:25 am
by Rock
Yep, I dropped out after realizing that a $250,000.00 investment would get me a $30,000.00 job. When recent grads came back to school and said that they were working second jobs to make ends meet.
My inital reaction was: FUCK YOU! , I'M IN LAW SCHOOL FOR HOOKERS AND BLOW. Then I dropped out.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:26 am
by goose
Sadly, my decision was akin to robbing a bank. An impulse move out of quiet desperation. And like robbing a bank, I get to pay for it for the rest of my life.
Yep, there are worse jobs. However, this grind really isn't what Perry Mason or Clarence Darrow promised. Damn you Clarence Darrow! Anyway, nuff ranting and whining. I just thought the video was funny.
In my 3rd year of Law School, they partnered you up with 1st years to do the old big buddy thing. Frankly, it was just a lame set up so 3rd years could hook up with the incoming 1st year chix. Have you seen the girls in Law school?
Anyway, I was "removed" from participating because my advice was "get out now while you can". Really, 30k a year job when you get out was/is a reality for many. Grad from Harvard/Stanford, well sure, you're gonna make the big bucks. But not from the lower tier schools. You're gonna be a billing grinder - Discovery, doc review, overall bitch. If you're lucky.
My "lil buddy" didn't make it. She failed out in her 3rd year (i thought that was impossible). Anyway, she sent me a letter a few years back stating that she is so happy that she did.
I think this video should be shown prior to anyone deciding to major in Philosophy, Political Science (classic oxymoron), Literature or English. All those chumps think about law school (ask me how I know). Ahhh, the 20/20 of hindsight.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:47 am
by Rabbit_Fighter
I almost went to law school. I had a liberal arts degree and no clue what I actually wanted to do with myself. I'm analytical and like picking apart problems, so I thought becoming a lawyer would be the only way for me to be intellectually challenged and move forward professionally. I am sooo glad I decided not to go.
My advice to 16 year old me (or rather 21 year old me) would be:
Your liberal arts degree might seem worthless on its own, but can become very valuable with a little experience and a "certificate program". Don't give up and don't make excuses.
Also . . . that "captain of the football team is serving fries" attitude is a bunch of self important bullshit that makes high-school dorks feel like everything is gonna be okay. Some of the morons (be them cool jocks or stoner punks) are going to be millionaires, while some of the honor students are going to fall apart.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:49 am
by MoraleHazard
Not that I have one, my degree is in "Marine Transportation", but business degrees from second and third tier schools can be worthless too. Studying buzzwords (Lean Six Sigma!) and reading masturbatory books from business moguls past and present does, IMO, little to promote critical thinking, independent work, etc.
I think it's not so much WHAT is studied, but HOW it's studied and I also think a well-rounded base (logic, history, literature, philosophy, math) has a lot of long term benefits.
Also I think we need to resurrrect apprenticeships, even for businessy / lawerly type careers. Clerks and paralegals should, after a number of years of experience, sit and study for the bar.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:11 pm
by piccini9
Yeah, and something similar should probably apply in the Medical Business as well. You know. after a certain number of years, those people who keep the Doctors from accidentally killing you should be allowed to take a shot at a medical license.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:28 pm
by goose
Rabbit_Fighter wrote:I almost went to law school. I had a liberal arts degree and no clue what I actually wanted to do with myself. I'm analytical and like picking apart problems, so I thought becoming a lawyer would be the only way for me to be intellectually challenged and move forward professionally. I am sooo glad I decided not to go.
My advice to 16 year old me (or rather 21 year old me) would be:
Your liberal arts degree might seem worthless on its own, but can become very valuable with a little experience and a "certificate program". Don't give up and don't make excuses.
Also . . . that "captain of the football team is serving fries" attitude is a bunch of self important bullshit that makes high-school dorks feel like everything is gonna be okay. Some of the morons (be them cool jocks or stoner punks) are going to be millionaires, while some of the honor students are going to fall apart.
yeah, there was (and is) a lot of that bitter towards the success of youth crap (youth success defined as popularity, high school sports, rich kid, etc - all the stuff that makes for social currency in high school).
It's a failure of having your own introspection - yeah, those guys sucked, but then, so did "we". I remember watching stupid talk shows where the geek becomes a swan and wants to confront the tyrants of their youth. Sadly, the tyrants were stereotypical (who'd watch otherwise?) and all participants looked pathetic. Living to spite another isn't really living.
Back on track, I wish RF had been around to say just what he had in his post.
Have faith in yourself to do things you want to do. Forget the stereotypes and what you "think" you're going to be when you grow up. Take time and decide what you want to be and why you want to be it and the knowledge that everything has its challenges. Then, you have to have the courage to fail.
I've been toying seriously (as opposed to simple daydreams) about changing up. Starting my own thing.
When I look at it, however, I'll still be doing this stuff. Even if i'm the only one I have to account to, it's still this stuff. I'm more interested in a big change. Something really different. Now, where is my bag of courage? I need to dip a lil deeper into that and get a bit more focused. Priest's move was an inspiration. Sadly, I don't have any real "talent" or skill that I can fall back on besides litigation. Still, I'm exploring.
Uh oh, I'm in danger of doing that "the board is my thereapist, I shall not want" thing. Sorry bout that. I'm done.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:31 pm
by Bigshankhank
As I have learned from recent experience, success does not depend on the grades you make so much as it is the hands you shake. I too considered law school being a rather analytical fellow. I never committed to the idea, preferring instead to make money in my chosen profession. When I was layed off from work back in '09, I figured well this may be a sign to go back to school. I happened to read an article about law school, and how big school manipulated the Law Review to make their graduation rates and hiring rates look good soley for the fact that it makes their enrollment rates go up. Fuzzy math as they say. Scared me off, and I'm glad it did.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:36 pm
by piccini9
The honorable Goose Esq. said
When I look at it, however, I'll still be doing this stuff. Even if i'm the only one I have to account to, it's still this stuff. I'm more interested in a big change. Something really different. Now, where is my bag of courage? I need to dip a lil deeper into that and get a bit more focused. Priest's move was an inspiration. Sadly, I don't have any real "talent" or skill that I can fall back on besides litigation. Still, I'm exploring.
Would you? Could you? Re-open that awesome bar that I never had a chance to visit?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:19 pm
by Sisyphus
As I get further and further in to self-employment ashore after quitting a successful and promising career at sea, sometimes I wonder about what else I could have been. I'm looking down the barrel of my mid-40's.
I'm 85% secure in my decision to go it on my own. I regret only a few things I'd done previously in my aforesaid career.
Life isn't about living in the past. Fuck that.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:37 pm
by WeAintFoundShit
piccini9 wrote: Re-open that awesome bar that I never had a chance to visit?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:35 pm
by thrasherbill
WeAintFoundShit wrote:piccini9 wrote: Re-open that awesome bar that I never had a chance to visit?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:44 pm
by calamari kid
Mrs C's response, "Yup."
Oh, and this.
thrasherbill wrote:WeAintFoundShit wrote:piccini9 wrote: Re-open that awesome bar that I never had a chance to visit?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:57 pm
by rolly
calamari kid wrote:thrasherbill wrote:WeAintFoundShit wrote:piccini9 wrote: Re-open that awesome bar that I never had a chance to visit?
Also, make a sequel to that movie I liked.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:13 am
by Bo_9
goose wrote:I've been toying seriously (as opposed to simple daydreams) about changing up. Starting my own thing.
When I look at it, however, I'll still be doing this stuff. Even if i'm the only one I have to account to, it's still this stuff
As I'm looking at forty years gone by soon this is a common theme in my mind. For fifteen years it's been very much the same thing, the steady advance of an IT career in a section of the country where you are not going to make the national average for your skill-set.
The want or need to do something else is a daily search for me, as simply doing the same thing on my own will still leave the same feeling. Unfortunately the running theme with all the middle aged friends I have is that there really isn't anything else interesting that can be profitable. This must be the mid-life crisis they always talk about. I can say that making the hobby a side-business was a mistake in my case. Started doing work on other peoples rides in my spare time, the result has murdered a bit of the passion for playing with my own toys so I don't do that anymore. Did the same with a side IT gig, but that was just a massive time-suck.
So I don't have an answer, but at least I can tell you that what you are not alone in your desire for change or in the lack of an idea about what that change should be.