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So when American Chopper came out all these "people" (for lack of a better term) became bikers. Are all the same "people" going to try to be operators now?

Not sure what I think of this...... Archbishop Tutu is against it for glorifiying war.


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I'm against it because it's fucking gay.

I clicked out at the point where they uttered the cliched lie about "protecting our freedoms."
Not overseas, they're not. The ACLU is doing that more than any grunt at the moment.
I guess that it's hard to glorify young men risking death "to maintain the value of our unstable fiat currency against those wishing to trade oil for Euros or gold or anything except the US dollar! USA!"

Let us remember George Washington's advice in his farewell speech to "... avoid the necessity of those overgrown military establishments, which, under any form of government, are inauspicious to liberty, and which are to be regarded as particularly hostile to Republican Liberty."

I must agree with the OP's main point. Just as pansies that never rode a motorcycle cream their jeans looking at art choppers, only some masturbatory adolescent or stunted man-child glorifies war. It's an ugly job and a sausage factory in so many ways. Who wants to show this and who wants to watch it?

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thought about un-editing, but remains edited...

I wont watch this show. I am insulted it exists.

My response upon viewing an ad for this:

'Wouldn't it be awesome if they all died.'

Guess I'll keep hoping and waiting for Survivor: Syria.

/RM

Pass.

After I get done washing the mud off of my big diesel pickup, gutting this deer and cleaning all my guns, I'm going to crack a 30 pack of bud light and jerk off while watching this show.

MURRICA! FUCK YEAH!

I like the rebuttal

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that was excellent. Simply excellent!!!!!

I was turned off initially at the sight of a (retired) four-star general promoting a TV show. I haven't been in the military, but something just didn't seem right with that. Red flag #1.

Then, before even realizing the premise, I am clearly shown a new Ford F-something kicking up dust with geared up people in the back. Now I'm not a TV person as it is, and I can't stand "reality" tv. But with a wife who loves Extreme Makeover - Home Edition, I've seen enough to know that this was a product placement/ad for Ford*. Red flag #2.

That was enough for me, and that was only 23 seconds into the clip. Done. But I did watch the whole Action Figure Therapy clip and laughed.


*Not bashing Ford, because in the Ford/Chevy debate, I'm more of a Ford guy

+1 on above quote.

gazza wrote:+1 on above quote.

Make that +2

don't forget a doctor's permission to take fucking advil, but drink all you can guzzle, just stop 12hrs before duty....that will last 54hrs (ish), oh and thats homestation; we'll deal with deployed later [see above for pot shots, rocks, etc]

actual quote from my class "Lt, please put down the uranium.....no, ya know what on second thought, lick it you little fucker, clearly thats what darwin would have wanted"

it turns out my dad and I watch it....
Kinda fun to see how much these stars suck at life.
The talking still bugs me and the premise, and all the head patting.

"You did a good job, yes you did. Who's a tough star? You are! You are! " (When it takes them 4 shots from a bench to hit a target at 15 meters. )

Rock wrote:So when American Chopper came out all these "people" (for lack of a better term) became bikers. Are all the same "people" going to try to be operators now?

Not sure what I think of this...... Archbishop Tutu is against it for glorifiying war.

i also agree - there's (in my forseeable opinion, anyway) going to be an imminent wave of noodle-headed drones flocking to whatever militaristic thing they can get ahold of.

outcome 1- anyone young enough will gleefully toss themselves into the army/marines meatgrinder, thus contributing to the wave of eventual veterans who are disillusioned, among other things.

outcome 2 (1 A ?)- anyone over the age of the join-up cut-off age is probably going to flock to the locak citizen milita, thus filling the ranks with thundering morons who are goona get both themselves and other people killed, should a militia cell need to do their thing. Their idiocy will only contribute to the stigma and the 'problem' of having armed soldier wanna-bees running about in the woods, who are empty headed enough to believe most anything.

It wont take much for these muppets to react to some political or whatever event, blow it way out of proportion, convince a squad or 2 of similar empty-headed hotdogs to do something, and force the government/police to react accordingly.

Also, because they are indeed attached to the local militia group/whatever in their area, it will only look bad for every other group that calls itself a militia, and further reinforce the promoted idea that a militia group is a domestic terrorist cell just waiting to happen.

from there, it all just goes downhill for everyone....Yes, Everyone.

or outcome 2 (3?) - the above mentioned noodleheads get geardo'ed up for awhile and enjoy their second amendment privileges (le gasp ?) for a change, after abit of time they will inevitably latch onto the next big trend, promptly sell all of their collected militarily stuff, and move on to the next program.

srg wrote:
i also agree - theres going to be an imminent wave of noodle-headed drones flocking to whatever militaristic thing they can get ahold of.

So maybe we're missing out on an opportunity here. We open up a "Boot Camp Experience Park", kinda like a dude ranch for military wannabes. Take their money and thrash the shit out of them while laughing at their ineptitude.

srg wrote:

Rock wrote:So when American Chopper came out all these "people" (for lack of a better term) became bikers. Are all the same "people" going to try to be operators now?

Not sure what I think of this...... Archbishop Tutu is against it for glorifiying war.

i also agree - theres going to be an imminent wave of noodle-headed drones flocking to whatever militaristic thing they can get ahold of.

anyone young enough will gleefully toss themselves into the army/marines meatgrinder, thus contributing to the wave of eventual veterans who are disillusioned, among other things.

anyone over the age of the join-up cut-off age is probably going to flock to the locak citizen milita, thus filling the ranks with thundering morons who are goona get both themselves and other people killed, should a militia cell need to do their thing. Their idiocy will only contribute to the stigma and the 'problem' of having armed soldier wanna-bees running about in the woods, who are empty headed enough to believe most anything.

It wont take much for these cum-sacks to react to some political or whatever event, blow it way out of proportion, convince a squad or 2 of similar empty-headed walking dicks to do something, and force the government/police to react accordingly.

Also, because they are indeed attached to the local militia group/whatever in their area, it will only look bad for every other group that calls itself a militia, and further reinforce the promoted idea that a militia group is a domestic terrorist cell just waiting to happen.

from there, it all just goes downhill for everyone....Yes, Everyone.

There are 2 myths you remind me of.
1 is that of the Owl
the other is a greek one that I coant rember at the moment...Casandra maybe.

Anyway, both are to the same effect. truth unappreacated. I hpe you are wrong, but I fear you are not.

calamari kid wrote:

srg wrote:
i also agree - theres going to be an imminent wave of noodle-headed drones flocking to whatever militaristic thing they can get ahold of.

So maybe we're missing out on an opportunity here. We open up a "Boot Camp Experience Park", kinda like a dude ranch for military wannabes. Take their money and thrash the shit out of them while laughing at their ineptitude.

sounds like a rather viable idea; altho i would have afew genuine military personnel mixed into the staff for some authenticity.

the expanse (and expense) of property will be an issue tho, as will ammunition and other such peripherals.

srg wrote:

calamari kid wrote:

srg wrote:
i also agree - theres going to be an imminent wave of noodle-headed drones flocking to whatever militaristic thing they can get ahold of.

So maybe we're missing out on an opportunity here. We open up a "Boot Camp Experience Park", kinda like a dude ranch for military wannabes. Take their money and thrash the shit out of them while laughing at their ineptitude.

sounds like a rather viable idea; altho i would have afew genuine military personnel mixed into the staff for some authenticity.

the expanse (and expense) of property will be an issue tho, as will ammunition and other such peripherals.

Given the Oot makeup I dont think any of this would be a real issue, save maybe the Mill Folk not wanting any fucking thing to do with it.

Is this not what the Fitness "Boot Camp" thing is? THe gym I go to now has one. I watched it some today while I was lifting (they were in my way a LOT) What a bunch of waste of flesh, including the trainer. (Him most of all, but that is another rant)

Anyway look at all the "Hard Core" or "Extereeme" races out there now. Seems like they are looking for a sort of experance, with out the experance, if you know where I am going

Look at these hipsters here, all into militarism before it was cool.

JoJoLesh wrote:

gazza wrote:+1 on above quote.

Make that +2

+3

Then they can fill out mindless forms, have to do "Trafficking-in-Persons" or "Personally Identifiable Information" training for the sixth time in as many months. Then their travel claim can get lost, again.

srg wrote:

calamari kid wrote:

srg wrote:
i also agree - theres going to be an imminent wave of noodle-headed drones flocking to whatever militaristic thing they can get ahold of.

So maybe we're missing out on an opportunity here. We open up a "Boot Camp Experience Park", kinda like a dude ranch for military wannabes. Take their money and thrash the shit out of them while laughing at their ineptitude.

sounds like a rather viable idea; altho i would have afew genuine military personnel mixed into the staff for some authenticity.

the expanse (and expense) of property will be an issue tho, as will ammunition and other such peripherals.

This is already sort of done. Check out the back pages of any gun magazine.