UTMC

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what the hell is next? are they gonna bring back the KKK, child labor (maybe not a bad idea), lynch mobs and women chained to the stove?

Things like this really make me want to move to... well, to another planet.

Dig this:

http://bubbaworld.com/bythenumbers.html[/url]

guitargeek wrote:Things like this really make me want to move to... well, to another planet.

i'm right there with you, brother. perhaps the moon would do?


maybe a hostile takeover of the ISS?

Unless I am mistaking, outlawing anal sex between consenting adults is a violation of the UN declaration of human rights.

DerGolgo wrote:Unless I am mistaking, outlawing anal sex between consenting adults is a violation of the UN declaration of human rights.

Unless I am mistaken, conservative America could give a shit about the UN declaration of human rights. Considering how much difficulty the UN has on forming opinions and strategies over rogue states with nuclear weapons, I doubt that decisive action for anal sex is going to happen really quickly.

Moral conservatives are kind of entertaining. I don't blame people for feeling a bit uneasy about the times we live in, but frankly, cell phones and suburban sprawl have had a hell of lot more impact on this culture than blowjobs and homos.

I'd be really curious about the divorce rate among those who support the "protection of marriage."

Considering how much difficulty the UN has on forming opinions and strategies over rogue states with nuclear weapons, I doubt that decisive action for anal sex is going to happen really quickly

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ahem, sorry. Personally, I'm a white, straight, healthy male with a shaved head in the suburbs with two dogs and a fence. I hang out largely with other straight white guys of varying financial status (and regrettably, varying levels of homophobia and racism, though I'd like to think all within normal stats). I am everything that any minority might (and with good reason) fear, and everything the neocons think they're trying to save.

Fuck 'em (the neocons, just for clarification)

I am pretty conservative, I admit, but that's my business. I'm not going to force my morals on anyone, and I like to go a step further, in that I'm not even going to hold your morals against you. There's enough common ground for anyone and everyone to get along.

I won't try to save you if you don't try to save me.

Now why the hell can't gov't take that opinion? In fact, considering seperation of church and state, aren't they obligated to?

The one that really gets me was that breakdown about Indaiana cops coming onto guys in the shower, and busting them for getting turned on.

OK, take this over to the straight side. Imagine for a moment (for the guys) that after the gym every day, you had to shower in the women's room. Stop grinning you rednecks and really think about it. How awkward and uncomfortable would that be? Seriously, the views may be astounding, but it would suck. That's total BS.

I would think/hope/pray that lawmakers would fix stupid throwbacks like that. Good luck to Indiana!

-Rench

I THINK THIS JUST ABOUT SAYS IT ALL.


--Jaeger

(Lyrics posted below)

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Keep your Jesus off my Penis
by Eric Schwartz

Keep your Jesus off my penis
Keep your bible off my balls
Keep your prayers out of my ears
And your crosses off my walls
You can keep the virgin mother
And the resurrection too
Keep your Jesus off my penis
I'll keep my penis off of you

Well I'm frickin' sick and tired
Of turning on the news
And seeing the religious right's
Ungodly fight to take our right to choose
When to bear our children
Who to love and how
Education and protection
If we're just practicing for now
So dubya look obey a book
If that's what works for you
But I don't tell you how to pray
So don't tell me how to screw

Keep your Jesus off my penis
Keep your bible off my balls
Keep your prayers out of my ears
And your crosses off my walls
You can keep the virgin mother
And the resurrection too
Keep your Jesus off my penis
I'll keep my penis off of you

So you're screaming bloody murder
'Bout the taliban regime
For subjugating women
And being too extreme
And basing legislation
On some ancient holy book
Does that sound a bit familiar?
Here's a mirror, have a look

And as for the ten commandments
They need one more at least
Thou shall never cover up
The acts of pervert priests
How'd they let that happen
Unless they just abhor us
Well anyway it adds
Another layer to the chorus

Keep your Jesus off my penis
Keep your bible off my balls
Keep your prayers out of my ears
And your crosses off my walls
You can keep the virgin mother
And the resurrection too
Keep your Jesus off my penis
I'll keep my penis off of you

So you'll execute a person
And protect a single cell
But mercy-kill the terminally ill
And you're goin' straight to hell
I don't know much about
The word of God
Far be it from me
But I can tell you what it ain't -
Hypochristianity

I am not anti-Christian
Before you grab a rope
There is beauty in religion
And joy and love and hope
We're all looking for an answer
Some colossal cosmic cause
But who the fuck are you
To turn your views into my laws?
It's just believers in the bible
That would have abortion banned
Anti-choice agnostics?
I could count'em on one hand
And as for killing babies
I have but one retort
If someone raped your daughter George
You'd beg her to abort

And if some young girl from your church
Shows up with child or some infection
`Cuz you taught her what a horrid sin
It was to use protection
One day you'll face the pearly gates
And whatchu gonna say
When that long-haired Jewish peacenick
Sends your ass the other way sayin'

Keep your Jesus off my penis
Keep your bible off my balls
Keep your prayers out of my ears
And your crosses off my walls
I've had it up to here
With all the biblibile you spew
Keep your Jesus off my penis
(at least that's what I would do)
Keep your Jesus off my penis
I'll keep my penis off of you
That's if'n you want me to

excellent song, but the guy in the video is a little creepy.

919 wrote:excellent song, but the guy in the video is a little creepy.

i think that's because he talking about his penis.

Just clarifying things abit. Deviate sexual conduct is not against the law in Indiana. The definition is in the criminal code because use of a defined deviate act in the commision of a sex crime can raise the class of the offence. Example from a class B to a class A felony. If you want to look at a really screwed up Indiana criminal code Rape is defined as forced penile penetration of the vagina. Technically in Indiana if you anally rape someone it is sexual battery with deviate sexual conduct. By the way the age of consent is 16 so a sixteen year-old can legally have sex with an 80 year old if they want. Child molestation is defined as any sexual contact with anyone under the age of 14 (even if the perpertrator is under 14, I have a patient being adjudicated a delinquent child molester who was 11 when he molested his six-year-old brother), an adult having intercourse with a 14 or 15 year old is guilty of Sexual Misconduct with a minor. I need to point out that if an 18 year old high school senior has consensual sex with his 15 year old freshman girlfriend he is guilty of a felony. It could be worse, in Michigan the age of consent is 18 and an Oakland county prosecutor has twice tried to try cases where an 18-year-old male impregnated his 16-year-old girlfriend.

legislating sexual conduct is a slippery slope and not nearly as clear cut as people would like to believe. There are mandatory sentencing for drug offences but not sex offences. over 95% of sex crimes never reach court. For two years all of my patients were convicted child molesters and there average sentance was six years (Class C felony) in Indiana you do a day for a day good time so they got out in 3 years (and then had to see me for 3 years of probation). Prosecutors plea these cases down because young children often do not make credible witnesses, there is rarely any physical evidence and the perpetrator has a constitutional right to face their acuser. We live in a fucked up world. (final BTW, I am a hospital administrator now and run a residential program that treats victims of sexual abuse).

Holy Crap, another Indiana member!


I didn't know they use those laws to up the anty for convictions but it still makes me wonder how many of the "Morally Right" would like to use them for actual arrests.

One of the many reasons I couldn't be a cop or a person that dealt with victims of sexual crimes, is the urge to snuff the offenders out in the most painful way possible. Atleast there's prison justice in most cases...

Sadly there usually isn't prison justice because they usually do not get convicted. When they do they get out of prison. Being abused in prison doesn't make them less likely to reoffend they often use it as rationalization to re offend. "I was abused so the world owes me". These guy's (usually are men) are masters at rationalizing their behaviors. Sad.

Seems Mississippi is getting in on anti-fun-toy laws. With laws like these, less sex in Mississippi might lead to fewer conservative dicks being born. Who knows?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6308419/
(the March 21st commentary)

You bring up very good points. It's sick that women get abortions for selfish reasons like that. Just another reminder at how sick our society has become.

I personally am pro-choice but I'd prefer to release my corrupt offspring on to the Earth. Of course, I say that now but you can remind me of that if I ever have a kid and complain about it.

Just to weigh in, as if somebody asked me:

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP HAVING SO GODDAMNED MANY CHILDREN!!!

There are already way too many people on the planet, we need fewer people, not more!

This "miracle of life" horseshit is overrated. It's extremely easy to reproduce, and people do it without a single thought for the enormous responsibility involved in bringing another person into the world.

Just my $.02 but I think abortions should be the norm, not the exception. When I'm in charge people will have to apply for a license to have children, application process to strongly stress intelligence testing!


Okay, flame on.

GuitarGeek said,
Just my $.02 but I think abortions should be the norm, not the exception. When I'm in charge people will have to apply for a license to have children, application process to strongly stress intelligence testing!

I would agree but I have two great sons. And I would be one of those I would deem not fit to procreate. A lot of the Denver crew have met my oldest and can attest He turned out alright.
i just wish he would post on the board

Put it this way: If you're smart enough to "get" UTMC, you're probably smart enough to raise your kids right.

Two kids is the right number, too. Nobody needs to have half a dozen children.

Dammit, I' m becoming Mormon and having 12 wives and each wife will bear me 12 kids and I will have Gross of kids.......Actually I want a Company of kids, and from birth I will train them and we will be Rock's Rogues and we will take over the world......................

Seriously though, if the kids are being raised in a fair and humane manner, Its nobodies business if the O'Mallys have 20 kids or the Smiths have 2.3.

I'm not sure I need to disappoint more than one female at a time. As for population control, I have my 2.3 children (payments?) but maybe it's time for some Soy-Lent Green.
Mmmmm... Soy-Lent Green.... Das es mein teil.

I am still under the impression that the US average for kids is 2.3 per family.

Awww, come on, is that the best hate you can muster? I don't have any kids and I'm ranting against people who do! Soccer moms in minivans on their cell phones yelling at their 2.3 kids while they run you the fuck over! People tell me I'd feel differently if i had kids of my own... well I don't smoke crack, either, but if I did I'm sure I'd feel differently about crackheads! (For those of you just tuning in, I've just compared breeders to crackheads.)

Its nobodies business if the O'Mallys have 20 kids

Well... in a way, it's everybody's business. I guess you missed the part where I said "There are already way too many people on the planet"... Really, there are way too many people on the planet! It's overpopulated.



Granted, if everybody else in the world was cool and liked motorcycles and were capable of rational thought I wouldn't have a problem with them pumping out babies like so many Pez dispensers... but if they were truly capable of rational thought they wouldn't want to have so many children, would they?

You know, control over one's reproduction is the sign of an evolved species...




Can I still come to the BBQ?

The coming apocalypse will take care of the population thing. I just had kids because my pension sucks, and I know I'll live long enough to be a burden to them.

Population control begins at home!!

MoraleHazard wrote:. Who in 1900 would have thought that
two world wars would have occurred and the airliner would
replace the ocean liner as the way to get around?

H.G. Wells.

But that aside, I think the world is overpopulated as it is, not to mention that never before seen numbers of people are nearing procreation age in Africa and Asia.l

jaeger, your post just made me pee my pants. shorts. whatever. i'm on my way to make sure that makes it to my compadres on myspace.

jangleplatz!

I'm all about the baby-license scheme! One more pregnant momma with one on the hip and three on leashes screaming in the grocery store, smacking the oldest for wanting a different kind of cereal and I think I'll be sick! You're telling me a vat of macaroni-and-cheese with ketchup and bruises on the back of the head is a good life?

How about this? Maybe a little honesty in sex-ed? Maybe an emphasis on responsibility? Maybe some semblance (sp?) of REAL "family-values?" Sorry, you can't legislate this crap, but if ANY moral issue should make it into government's sphere it should be the ability to effectively RAISE the fetus you're so intent on saving.

Good Lord it's been a while since I've engaged in this discussion!

giggles,
charlie

did I just contribute to a dead thread?

oops

collegeboy01 wrote:did I just contribute to a dead thread?

oops

No, no, I'm still hopping mad about the breeders.

Hey, someone has to cause all that debt! Remember: accidents cause people.