This low carb diet is jangleplatz!

Jaeger · Post by **Jaeger** » Thu May 05, 2011 6:35 am

After reading this thread for a couple of days (and being gym sore) I had a huge craving for a steak last night while I was in the store.

One whole (albeit small) London broil later and I feel much better.

--Jaeger

red · Post by **red** » Thu May 05, 2011 6:48 am

Jaeger wrote:After reading this thread for a couple of days (and being gym sore) I had a huge craving for a steak last night while I was in the store.

One whole (albeit small) London broil later and I feel much better.

--Jaeger

Ever had a "blue steak"? Cook for 60 seconds on each side, let it sit for a few minutes and enjoy! Kills all the bacteria and leaves all the tasty nutrients and juices inside.

Since I started eating mine blue, anything over medium rare looks like shoe leather.

Zim · Post by **Zim** » Thu May 05, 2011 7:30 am

Is that what "knock the horns off and run a match under it" means?

Jaeger · Post by **Jaeger** » Thu May 05, 2011 8:02 am

red wrote: Ever had a "blue steak"? Cook for 60 seconds on each side, let it sit for a few minutes and enjoy! Kills all the bacteria and leaves all the tasty nutrients and juices inside.

Since I started eating mine blue, anything over medium rare looks like shoe leather.

Usually when a waiter asks me how I'd like my steak cooked my answer is "moo."

--Jaeger

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Thu May 05, 2011 8:18 am

piccini9 wrote:I'm on the "Eat Less, Move Around More" diet.

It seems to be working.

My moderator is broken. I have been unable to stay off the slippery slope of sugary things (my office keeps a jar of peanut m&ms, the bastards) so I can only limit them by prohibiting them. I have tried to 'eat less and exercise' but it seems the best I can do with that is maintain my weight.

I am eating some complex carbs, but usually only one serving per day. Most of my calories are from fats though.

I maxxed out at about 270 last year, now down to 235, shooting for an even 200. When I do get to 200 none of my m/c gear may fit anymore though

Post by **DerGolgo** » Thu May 05, 2011 8:42 am

I've gone from about 350 lbs to 220 lbs in about two years, and sorta hit a brick wall a few weeks back. Couldn't get it lower with my old calorie counting regimen.
I've decided to try this because, what the heck. The worst that could happen is that I go up a few pounds which I should be able to loose again.
I've cut back carbs for three days now, and a) have noticed that I consume much fewer calories than before but feel a lot less hungry than before, also, and b) seem to have lost about two pounds already, which, for this space of time, is more than I managed even when I started out and fasted at 1500 calories a day while lugging around all that extra mass.

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Thu May 05, 2011 8:50 am

DerGolgo wrote:I've gone from about 350 lbs to 220 lbs in about two years, and sorta hit a brick wall a few weeks back. Couldn't get it lower with my old calorie counting regimen.
I've decided to try this because, what the heck. The worst that could happen is that I go up a few pounds which I should be able to loose again.
I've cut back carbs for three days now, and a) have noticed that I consume much fewer calories than before but feel a lot less hungry than before, also, and b) seem to have lost about two pounds already, which, for this space of time, is more than I managed even when I started out and fasted at 1500 calories a day while lugging around all that extra mass.

jangleplatz!

Even though you are seeing results already you should give it two weeks before you make an assessment. It seems to take several days to really convert your metabolism to favor fat burning over glycogen burning (though it will go back to favoring glycogen in only a day or so if you have a sugar frenzy - cruel isn't it).

red · Post by **red** » Thu May 05, 2011 9:04 am

Toonce(s) wrote: I can only limit them by prohibiting them.

Same here. I don't have any middle ground with sugar, it's all or nothing. This is my last weekend with it, we'll see how it goes.

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Thu May 05, 2011 11:14 am

MoraleHazard wrote:I tried Atkins a few years ago in sympathy w/ my dad who's a type 2 diabetic. YMMV, but I was so hungry almost all the time. Just non-stop knawing hunger except right when I finished a meal.

Were you eating enough fat? One approach that is a complete train wreck is cutting carbs but not eating fat, i.e. low carb, low fat, high protein. Imagine eating nothing but iceberg lettuce and chicken breasts, that kind of thing. That is not going to work.

I also bonked on Atkins because it was too severe on the carbs, which is why you will find brown rice and bananas in the house. I felt like shyte trying to do the full-on induction plan.

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Thu May 05, 2011 11:40 am

Zim wrote:"knock the horns off and run a match under it"

In Texas we say, "Blow it's nose, wipe it's ass and run it on by!"

Personally, I don't want to know the cow's name, so I like mine medium/medium well.

problemaddict · Post by **problemaddict** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:15 pm

Hey Toonces, with your modified plan, are you in Ketosis constantly? if so, how do you deal with this "ketosis breath from hell"?

And if not, I assume you don't have this problem or is it just less severe? And if you're not in ketosis is the weight loss just slower?

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Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:32 pm

problemaddict wrote:Hey Toonces, with your modified plan, are you in Ketosis constantly? if so, how do you deal with this "ketosis breath from hell"?

And if not, I assume you don't have this problem or is it just less severe? And if you're not in ketosis is the weight loss just slower?

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I don't know if i'm in ketosis constantly. My research suggests that such a question is kindof a wrong question anyway. What I have gathered is that we get energy from two metabolic processes, ketosis (fat burn) and glycolysis (sugar burn). Both processes are always going but you can cause one of them to dominate based upon what you eat. Since I am typically eat one piece of flourless bread a day as well as lots of berries, I am not going harsh no-carb so I suspect I'm not pushing the ketosis button super hard. My weight loss rate of a steady 2.5 pounds per week also suggests this, as well as the fact that I typically feel energetic.

In fact, my weight loss has slowed down in the last week, hardly lost anything. May need to make an adjustment. My suspicion is that I am not being accurate enough with the amounts of heavy cream I am consuming and that shit is ENERGETIC. Still feel very good and have not fallen off the wagon at all, nutritionally speaking.

I don't think I have Klingon breath, and I think my wife would tell me if I did.

I did have a crisis last week, I went for a ride and figured out that I am rapidly getting too small to fit my awesome and expensive perforated leather jacket. It is starting to wear loosely.

I know, not a bad problem to have, I just don't see myself being able to afford a replacement any time soon. Aargh!

Anyhoo, I think my approach is not hard ketosis but is more sustainable than such a thing, cause I still feel sexy n stuff. The foundation is still SUGAR AND FLOUR BANISHMENT.

Zim · Post by **Zim** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:35 pm

Toonce(s) wrote:I did have a crisis last week, I went for a ride and figured out that I am rapidly getting too small to fit my awesome and expensive perforated leather jacket. It is starting to wear loosely. I know, not a bad problem to have, I just don't see myself being able to afford a replacement any time soon. Aargh!

I'm right there with you. -20 lbs, -4.5 inches from waist and -3.5 from chest, and my gear is fitting loosely. Can't afford new gear and even if I could, it would do no good to buy something now only to replace it yet again.

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Wed May 25, 2011 4:16 pm

Zim wrote:
Toonce(s) wrote:I did have a crisis last week, I went for a ride and figured out that I am rapidly getting too small to fit my awesome and expensive perforated leather jacket. It is starting to wear loosely. I know, not a bad problem to have, I just don't see myself being able to afford a replacement any time soon. Aargh!
I'm right there with you. -20 lbs, -4.5 inches from waist and -3.5 from chest, and my gear is fitting loosely. Can't afford new gear and even if I could, it would do no good to buy something now only to replace it yet again.

This is giving me a reason to wear my Icon chest/back protector under my leather every time I ride, it helps fill out my jacket. I am thinking that in another 10-20 pounds I should shop for the baddass-est upper body armor I can find, the bulkier the better. That will keep the jacket fitting till I can replace it, at least that is the plan.

something like this... looks to inexpensive to be true
http://www.t-motorsports.com/product/mo ... 500-black/

red · Post by **red** » Wed May 25, 2011 4:30 pm

Zim wrote:
Toonce(s) wrote:I did have a crisis last week, I went for a ride and figured out that I am rapidly getting too small to fit my awesome and expensive perforated leather jacket. It is starting to wear loosely. I know, not a bad problem to have, I just don't see myself being able to afford a replacement any time soon. Aargh!
I'm right there with you. -20 lbs, -4.5 inches from waist and -3.5 from chest, and my gear is fitting loosely. Can't afford new gear and even if I could, it would do no good to buy something now only to replace it yet again.

I'm moving in the opposite direction. I've always been scrawny and since I cut gluten, cut (most) sugar out of my diet and started Parkour, I've gained much needed muscle mass.

For the first time in a long time, I'm finding shirts/clothing being tighter.

Zer0 · Post by **Zer0** » Fri May 27, 2011 3:27 pm

Toonce(s) wrote:- Beer and wine and hard likker are fine once in a while,

I don't like that once in a while part. Not one bit

problemaddict wrote:But, yeah, beer is pretty much verboten

So much for this thread. Guess I'll be looking elsewhere.

Post by **Beemer Dan** » Sun May 29, 2011 3:21 pm

It's great to hear you guys are getting serious results with this! My weight tends to act like a tide, every few years I'll gain/lose 20-40 pounds. I'm sure some of it is egged along by activity and how much/what I eat, but I find it almost impossible to force change no matter what I do. I'm thinking of trying the low carb diet, but not having sugar in my coffee is the main thing that puts me off.

red · Post by **red** » Sun May 29, 2011 3:29 pm

Beemer Dan wrote: I'm thinking of trying the low carb diet, but not having sugar in my coffee is the main thing that puts me off.

Sugar is my weakness.

If you haven't already, switch from the refined sugar to the sugar in the raw stuff, it's good too. =]

Zer0 · Post by **Zer0** » Sun May 29, 2011 4:03 pm

red wrote:
Beemer Dan wrote: I'm thinking of trying the low carb diet, but not having sugar in my coffee is the main thing that puts me off.
Sugar is my weakness.

If you haven't already, switch from the refined sugar to the sugar in the raw stuff, it's good too. =]

+1000 to sugar in the raw, especially in coffee. My acupuncturist suggested I try that in my coffee when I told him about my heartburn. He said it was probabnly from the coffee. The molasses in sugar in the raw (turbinado sugar if you buy it in bulk) counterracts the acidic properties in coffee. Plus it just tastes way better than the refinmed stuff. No heartburn from the next day on. Best coffee advice ever,

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Mon May 30, 2011 4:17 pm

I took a few days off because I had met my goal (no sugar/flour till the Bolder Boulder, which was today) and have family visiting. I have consumed a few things that were forbidden but have decided that I have not missed that very much. Back to it tomorrow, till my birthday (July 19). Then another re-assessment.

If I were permitting it, I would use Agave nectar instead of Turbinado sugar for coffee, it is very low glycemic. And it is closely related to tequila

Vespalina · Post by **Vespalina** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:43 am

Jaeger wrote:
red wrote: Ever had a "blue steak"? Cook for 60 seconds on each side, let it sit for a few minutes and enjoy! Kills all the bacteria and leaves all the tasty nutrients and juices inside.

Since I started eating mine blue, anything over medium rare looks like shoe leather.
Usually when a waiter asks me how I'd like my steak cooked my answer is "moo."

--Jaeger

I usually say "Slap it on the ass and send it out" - you should see some of the looks I get from wait staff...

But in all seriousness, I am very glad you guys have started a thread about this - shedding unnecessary pounds is currently a hot topic of conversation at the Bowman Street Bunker between Nate and I.

I am currently reading "You on a Diet" (haven't gotten too far into it) but it's some very interesting stuff. And it backs up things that I learned in Anatomy class this past semester (especially about chemical receptors in your brain).

Next semester I'm taking a Nutrition for Clinical Sciences class and I'm actually quite excited about taking it. Since I'm taking it online, I've asked Nate to join me in taking it, so we can both learn about what we're really putting into our bodies when we eat. I think we'll both be pretty shocked.

I do like this BACON diet though....

Bigshankhank · Post by **Bigshankhank** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:10 am

I dunno, most of the folks in my family are constantly trying "diets" of all stripes to manage their weight and never get anywhere. Since I got married three years ago I've plumped on about thirty pounds of happy-fat, which the wife and I are currently ramping up our fitness regimens to deal with.
"Eat less - move around more" has never let me down. I'm not trying to see my abs (although that would be nice), just keep the muffin-top to a minimum. I eat carbs in the morning, and very little throughout the day. Protein intake has gone up to help with muscle building. Fat intake stays the same. Really other than losing some carbs, but certainly not cutting them out completely, our diet does not changea heck of a lot.

YMMV

problemaddict · Post by **problemaddict** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:59 pm

Kickass recipe blog for those trying the lo-carb thing:

http://blog.yourlighterside.com/

I just made her Chili and its pretty awesome (I'd cut the salt content in half next time, tho) and I have her "Oopsie Rolls" (hamburger buns) in the oven right now.

Enjoy!

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:33 pm

Update: Since May 30th I have been coasting, not counting calories and very occasionally allowing some bad carbs but for the most part staying low carb, and the result is that I am not losing but I'm also not gaining anything back either. This is good news, because I feel like I can keep up this kind of food lifestyle indefinitely. I need to go back to being strict in order to lose some more (I still need to lose another 20) but the good news is that I have no fear of gaining back whatever I do get rid of. Yay.

Post by **DerGolgo** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:56 pm

I just got back from the doctors office and, for a change, didn't get the "you have to do something about your cholesterol" talk.
I didn't ask for the specific numbers, but she described everything as "perfect".
This is good

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:07 am

I've been eating a shitload of beef jerky and pork rinds. Low carbs but INSANE sodium.
I decreased my prednisone dosage and started taking DHEA... I'm bracing myself because I know my doctor will scream at me for that one.

problemaddict · Post by **problemaddict** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:38 pm

I'm hovering around 14lbs lost. I'm looking for 5 more. Maintaining the diet w/o cheating is easy, except for the demon alcohol. I've been loosing 3-4lbs during the week and gaining 2-3lbs during the weekend from drinking (spirits). Hmmm... maybe I have a "problem". ... Nah!!

guitargeek wrote:...and started taking DHEA... I'm bracing myself because I know my doctor will scream at me for that one.

Because DHEA must first be converted to androstenedione and then to testosterone in men, it has two chances to aromatize into estrogen - estrone from androstenedione, and estradiol from testosterone. As such, it is possible that supplementation with DHEA could increase estrogen levels more than testosterone levels in men.

You'll be soooo hot with boobies!!

guitargeek · Post by **guitargeek** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:01 pm

problemaddict wrote:You'll be soooo hot with boobies!!

What do you mean "will be"? I AM!

Srsly, tho, I had to decrease my Prednisone intake before I could hope to lose any weight. That stuff really packs it on!

xaos · Post by **xaos** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:18 am

problemaddict wrote:
I'm hovering around 14lbs lost. I'm looking for 5 more. Maintaining the diet w/o cheating is easy, except for the demon alcohol. I've been loosing 3-4lbs during the week and gaining 2-3lbs during the weekend from drinking (spirits). Hmmm... maybe I have a "problem". ... Nah!!

as a near daily consumer of generous offerings of beer and liquor, i relate to what you say. maintaining a higher level of physical fitness is important to me as i skydive for a living. being in good shape really makes it easier on all fronts. I run 15-25 miles a week, play drop-in hockey regularly, ride my bicycle very often, etc.

that said, i still carry a lil bit of weight around the midsection, and have resigned myself that that is how i am going to look. maybe some adults aren't meant to be skinny? it's what you can do, not what you look like.

maybe if i quit drinking, i'd lean out. i dunno. but what i do know is that i love to drink. you do the math.

Toonce(s) · Post by **Toonce(s)** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:59 am

Update:

I met my goal of no sugar/flour till Memorial day, then took the summer off for one reason or another, some good some bad, and I am getting back on it now.
Back on plan till Halloween. I found that a target date is a good motivator.

Diet post mortem for the this year so far: I took off 25 pounds and stuck to my eating plan with minimum difficulty. It really was EASY to reject refined carbs once I made up my mind to. This means that my system was NOT fighting the program. I had no urges to fight or misbehaviors, so FACT, (for me at least) NUTRITION IS KEY.

Over the summer I put back about 7 pounds. There was a long awaited family vacation to the northwest, then a week in Pennsylvania for work, then a few weeks of illness so I just ate whatever. So the gainback was earned.

I did visit Gettysburg, AMAZEBALLS of SADNESS and PROFUNDITY. Wish I could come back for DOOOOM.

PeaceLoveDope

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