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Post by WeAintFoundShit » Sun May 13, 2012 12:46 pm

That trick is good for steak sized things (I use it). It sort of fails with larger cuts.

The way I've been cooking steaks for a long time is to sear them on one side in a very hot pan, then throw them raw side up under a broiler. Been working like a charm, but I really want to try this method and compare. It does look delicious.


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Post by SSCAM » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:19 am

Decided to expirement yesterday with some cheeseburgers.

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Post by WeAintFoundShit » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:45 am

OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM.

Looks delicious!
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Post by Jonny » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:08 pm

Regarding our Antipodean ignorance of meats and the cooking thereof:

The situation is improving, but a typical bbq here would be throwing uninspiring sausages on to a gas-fired hotplate, along with (often unseasoned) lamb chops, cooked beyond well-done. I think it is more the general gathering, drinking of beer, and playing of backyard cricket which is attractive rather than the meat itself.

My aunt (amazing cook and English. Go figure...) introduced me at an early age to the joys of slow-cooking joints of beast in a wood/charcoal fired kettle, and forever raised my expectations of what a bbq can be. Some of what I read about Nth American style of bbq I find very exciting and reflect my meat-philosophy, however the heavy, over saucing of cooked beast doesn't really interest me. I'm curious about "pulled" meat, but am not convinced I would enjoy the texture. It's just something I'll have to come over and try.

As far as cuts of meat, I'm sure there are different names, but finding a shoulder of pork (that's "butt", right?) shouldn't be difficult at a decent butchers here. Out of interest, this is an Australian diagram of a butchered pork carcass:

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Enlighten me; according to this diagram, what do you call "butt" and "brisket"?

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Post by Mk3 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:11 pm

Being 'merican, you'd want a "Boston butt"...like freedom fries. After discussing with Mrs. Mk3 we've determined that, based on this diagram, the aussies have their heads in their asses and say things like belly instead of stomach.

And their seasons and toilets run backward. "Brisket" is a kind of generic term that can be applied to a number of different areas, but generally means the tougher meat around the neck/sternum of a cow but sometimes gets mixed in with "stew meat" which is like a category on a trouble tree that says "all others".

Type "cow meat cuts" (3rd link) into Google and look at one that's cow shaped and it will help since brisket isn't really a swine cut. Best bet, ask your butcher's advice for a piece of meat that will survive slow roasting.

http://sugarmtnfarm.com/pig-cut-chart-poster/

http://www.willowridgegreenhouse.com/Natural_Pork.php

http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/meatc ... rt2007.pdf
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Post by Mk3 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:17 pm

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Post by WeAintFoundShit » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:56 pm

I don't get into heavy over-saucing.

Just sayin...

Was gonna do a pork butt today, but got uninspired until it was too late.

Which sucks, because now I'm freggin starving.
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Post by AZRider » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:57 am

My favorite neighbor, Buttzilla and I were out for a ride yesterday which wound up at a local BBQ joint for dinner. Kenny mentioned that he wants to get a smoker and learn to barbecue.

RevCBL- what should he know about the electric option?

Everyone else- thoughts on how to choose a "beginner-friendly" smoker? Resources for learning the smoky arts?
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Post by WeAintFoundShit » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:33 am

I'd say that, aside from the electric option, your best bet for beginner friendly smoking is a Weber kettle grill, and if they want to get semi-serious, they can get one of these (or make something similar): http://www.smokenator.com/

Smoke with charcoal and use wood or woodchips above the fire, as smoking with wood requires that the fire be burning, not smoldering, or your food will get covered in creosote and taste nasty (and to have a full burning fire in a kettle grill will overheat things quite a bit).

Get a good digital thermometer. I've been cooking with a crappy bi-metal and it's a right pain in the ass. I'm pretty sure that the thing reads up to 50 degrees off, judging by the size of my meat and the cooking time at indicated temps. Plus with a digital, you don't have to lift the lid to check the temp.

Also, until you get your procedure down, and know exactly how to set up your grill (fire lighting and burning technique, and how much your vents should be open) it takes an hour or two of semi-constant babysitting and vent adjusting to get your temps right.
Now I'm to the point of throwing the shit on the grill and going to run errands, then checking the temp when I get back, then forgetting that I'm even cooking anything for two hours, freaking out, running to the grill and going "phew" because nothing has gone haywire.

Don't use the self lighting charcoal unless you like your food to taste like petroleum products. I will use just a few of those in a concentrated pile (or soak just a few briquets in lighter fluid and leave the rest dry) right on top of the rest of my pile in order to get things going, but that's it; the rest of the briquets are dry.

Damn... I'm hungry now.
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