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by MoraleHazard » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:59 am
tucko wrote:MoraleHazard wrote:tucko wrote:MoraleHazard wrote:Am I missing something on this thread?
Your union is "allowing" you to work in a non-union shop provide you recruit for the union. Meanwhile the union is providing you with no benefits except for credit to the pension.
Does the pension require a monetary contribution too?
And you still have to pay (discounted) dues while making far less money and getting no bennies.
Could you see any retribution from owners / bosses in a non-union shop?
Let me respond:
Question #1 Yes.
Question #2 My local and national pension are part of the wage package while employed at a union shop. While working non-union, my national pension is considered 'covered'. As of New Years, that's about 2.85 an hour I get credited towards my pension.
Question #3 Yes.
Question# 4 Hmm. As of now, I'm strictly covert. And that's the way it's going to be for a while. As for retribution, lol......I've been in the middle of so many Circle Jerks slam pits and high speed motorcycle runs, that retributions from a few old geezers are like getting brushed up against in the hallway by an ugly nun...And legally, I'm well versed in my rights to organize under the current law.....
Ok, well good luck. I'm mostly pro-union, though I know from some folks that some unions (or some chapters) are shit. Sometimes, IMO, an example like the shit t-shirts aren't a product of the union, but of the manufacturer. Though I know that some unions (cough AMO) are quite mobbed up and are bad in and of themselves.
Oh c'mon. Let's stop all this shit. Quit talking about 'unions' like they're all one huge entity. It's like saying, "my governor is corrupt, therefore all government is corrupt." Classic fallacy. My union leadership is democratically elected by the membership. And believe me, if they don't produce, they're thrown out on their asses. Sure, some unions suck. Some don't. But I'd rather be in a shitty union than no union at all. Mostly pro-union. Isn't that like being half pregnant?
Mostly as in I agree with what AZ said (mostly:) ). But I've seen some shit from shipping out and from friends in the trades so IMO unions are like corporations. Some are decent some aren't. JMHO.
You yourself said that you're recruiting for them for nothing (except discounted dues). Meanwhile the Galactic Empire is paying for your healthcare.
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by Sisyphus » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:07 am
Actually its in his best interest to be recruiting others, regardless.
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by tucko » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:32 pm
Sisyphus wrote:Actually its in his best interest to be recruiting others, regardless.
Exactly. It isn't for nothing. You're implying that I don't have the best interests of others in mind as well as my own interests....
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