Polar Bears are heavy.

MagnusTheBuilder · Post by **MagnusTheBuilder** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:54 am

erosvamp · Post by **erosvamp** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:09 pm

Polar bears are heavy. A long time ago at the highland games... they used polar bears instead of cabers. This was of course when there was more snow in that area.

Post by **DerGolgo** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:11 pm

erosvamp wrote:Polar bears are heavy. A long time ago at the highland games... they used polar bears instead of cabers. This was of course when there was more snow in that area.

I'm sure you have a splendid joke about men in skirts tossing off bears prepared.
Come on, let's get it over with.

erosvamp · Post by **erosvamp** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:21 pm

No joke. The bears just reminded me of caber tossing... with less stiff.

roadmissile · Post by **roadmissile** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:36 pm

My new ultimate threat will henceforth be to rain down polar bears on your ass.

/RM

Sisyphus · Post by **Sisyphus** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:12 am

So... The point of the video was to do what? Stop flying people back and forth to Europe? Yeah, right.

Vespalina · Post by **Vespalina** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:25 pm

I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but I really hope those were CGI polar bears...though they did look a little too real when they hit the ground and the car.

MagnusTheBuilder · Post by **MagnusTheBuilder** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:50 pm

Vespalina wrote:I hope this doesn't sound stupid, but I really hope those were CGI polar bears...though they did look a little too real when they hit the ground and the car.

Nope, they were real. It is more humane to drop them out of a plane than letting them get poached in the wild. At least they get one last super fun ride.

Truth = They were computer generated.

Pintgudge · Post by **Pintgudge** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:22 pm

So, the point of the video?

Think about it.

Don't know?

Get more info.

Think about it.

Sisyphus · Post by **Sisyphus** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:29 pm

I understand the message. That each passenger is the equivalent to the weight of one polar bear in carbon emissions. On transatlantic flights.

Now what? Ban transatlantic flights? Apparently you can deduce more than that so why don't you share with the rest of the class that doesn't understand poor marketing/advertising? Should I google "polar bear" to get more info?

I don't mean to be a dick but I know just like anyone else that emissions from anything that burns are ruining the planet but come on, what is the point of the video?

Post by **DerGolgo** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:36 pm

Sisyphus wrote:I understand the message. That each passenger is the equivalent to the weight of one polar bear in carbon emissions. On transatlantic flights.

Now what? Ban transatlantic flights? Apparently you can deduce more than that so why don't you share with the rest of the class that doesn't understand poor marketing/advertising?

Most people probably find it hard to picture any amount of carbon dioxide. They just know it as an invisible gas that obviously light as a feather. Polar bears are featured in the news these days mostly when they drown from lack of ice in the arctic. So, this helps people visualize the amount of carbon dioxide created by flying across the Atlantic while making the connection with global warming. I think.

dozer · Post by **dozer** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:40 pm

But why are they killing all the polar bears to make a point?

Sisyphus · Post by **Sisyphus** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:40 pm

Fine. Maybe if the creators of this video would put it into terms that the average person i.e. that doesn't fly across the Atlantic would undrstand or care about.

I think that the video -while artfully created- is wasted talent on an important issue, with a message that is too narrowly focused.

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:41 pm

dozerone wrote:But why are they killing all the polar bears to make a point?

Because baby jokes are passe.

Pintgudge · Post by **Pintgudge** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:45 pm

While the trans-atlantic flight/polar bear equation is the one specified, the idea that wishes to be heard is that air travel is the number one source of co2 emmisions by far.

While most don't travel trans-atlanticly, many do fly occasionally.

If there is any concern about the global atmospheric condition, this would be a good thing to consider.

Just think about it.

Post by **DerGolgo** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:03 pm

Pintgudge wrote:While the trans-atlantic flight/polar bear equation is the one specified, the idea that wishes to be heard is that air travel is the number one source of co2 emmisions by far.

Well, no, it isn't. But it might soon enough be, what with air-travel doubling every decade or so.

The problem with air travel is that a lot of it is not strictly necessary. To get across the Atlantic, there aren't many alternatives, as going by ship tends to be impractical and too expensive (yeah, it uses less fuel, but you need room and board for a week, don't you?!).
The greater problems, really, are short-haul flying where, if such a mythical thing exists, a train would be a better alternative and, with the congested skies and outlying locations of airports, even a competitive one where travel-speed is concerned, and long distance air-transport of perishables, like out-of-season fruit and goddamn flowers from the southern hemisphere and the like.
Long haul flying however does make a nicer image. If they illustrated the principle with little seals dropping from the sky to represent a short commuter flight, the impact of the image just wouldn't be the same.

Do I really need to have an apple flown all the way from New Zealand when there's perfectly good apples grown in Dutch greenhouses right across the border? No, I don't.

erosvamp · Post by **erosvamp** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:24 pm

Sisyphus wrote: I don't mean to be a dick but I know just like anyone else that emissions from anything that burns are ruining the planet but come on, what is the point of the video?

Skype.

Pintgudge · Post by **Pintgudge** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:33 pm

Oops, sorry,

Air travel is the fastest growing source of ... ... ... ...

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:03 pm

So...are they advocating a return to lighter-than-air airships? Provided, of course, that they can come up with an alternative to highly flammable panels, of course.

I wonder how much carbon one of those going up in flames produces?

xtian · Post by **xtian** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:55 am

yes, the message is
don't come here and let the polar bear drink their coca-cola.

roadmissile · Post by **roadmissile** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:54 am

Ames wrote:

I have a new idea for the 'clubhouse', involving one of these (not the burny kind) and an airfield.

/RM

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:23 am

roadmissile wrote:
Ames wrote:
I have a new idea for the 'clubhouse', involving one of these (not the burny kind) and an airfield.

/RM

No, no, and NO! There is to be no clubhouse, even with non burny lighter than air airships! And this is coming from a man whose wedding was steampunk in theme.

Pintgudge · Post by **Pintgudge** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:25 am

Tillamook Has a spare hanger, now to find the airships!

Metalredneck · Post by **Metalredneck** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:53 am

Polar bears are viciuos killers, and would tear the shit outta you if given the chance. I say: Let's get them first.

Post by **DerGolgo** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:09 pm

Metalredneck wrote:Polar bears are viciuos killers, and would tear the shit outta you if given the chance. I say: Let's get them first.

No, no! We need to bolster their population to use them as a weapon when the horrible aliens from the cold planets at the edge of the solar system come to take over our poles!!

ninemileskid · Post by **ninemileskid** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:23 pm

DerGolgo wrote:No, no! We need to bolster their population to use them as a weapon when the horrible aliens from the cold planets at the edge of the solar system come to take over our poles!!

My pole seems to have a mind of it's own, perhaps it's already been taken over by aliens.

UndertheGun · Post by **UndertheGun** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:28 pm

I'll stick to trans-Pacific flights.

roadmissile · Post by **roadmissile** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:02 am

Ames wrote:No, no, and NO! There is to be no clubhouse, even with non burny lighter than air airships! And this is coming from a man whose wedding was steampunk in theme.

You know the aircraft carrier would technically be a 'clubhouse' in that loose sense too right?

I thought your wedding was jack-in-the-box themed?

/RM

Ames · Post by **Ames** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:41 am

roadmissile wrote:
I thought your wedding was jack-in-the-box themed?

/RM

Nope, that's just who did the catering. Classy!

roadmissile · Post by **roadmissile** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:00 pm

Ames wrote:
roadmissile wrote:
I thought your wedding was jack-in-the-box themed?

/RM
Nope, that's just who did the catering. Classy!

I was referencing the surprise nature, but good on ya for some solid wedding food...

/RM

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Polar Bears are heavy.

Polar Bears are heavy.